13-06-2004 11:44									#31
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The only answer is to move to Butte Fuhcke Idaho

	13-06-2004 11:55									#32
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move to the east coast. philly got real low housing costs... for obvious reasons

	13-06-2004 11:59									#33
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I like the history there but that place is old and cold player

	13-06-2004 12:06									#34
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strangely, i hear the property taxes are real high. the land and houses are basically worthless though.

	13-06-2004 13:01									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I figure, no problem, I have a VA home loan for being a vet plus I can just rent out a room but the VA office says the home loans max out at $250,000! I can't buy anything with so little an amount! Why didn't the government make the VA loans big enough so you can actually afford to buy something?

Call your local Democratic and Republican party offices and complain about this. Get other vets to do the same. Make it a campaign issue.

	13-06-2004 13:03									#36
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Very similar here in London, I don't earn a bad wage but property prices have become so high I can't afford to buy. Stupid isn't it? Me and a friend of mine were toasting to a property price crash in the near future

	13-06-2004 13:40									#37
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It will happen

You want to look for inflation rising and other "boom" things Rich - anything that makes the Bank raise rates. Once they've gone far enough *pop* here comes the fun...

	13-06-2004 13:43									#38
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Well I'm also hoping to take advantage in the rise of those interest rates too when I am putting money aside

	13-06-2004 13:46									#39
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Word up I am with you UK bastards

There was a condo right behind my apartment building that just sold for $600,000.

Good lawd who do I have to **** or what bank do I have to rob around here?!?!?!

	13-06-2004 13:49									#40
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You can still get some really cheap houses in Salford. I saw a 3 bed semi for £19k in the local rag the other day..

	13-06-2004 15:16									#41
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A 3 bed semi shed?

	13-06-2004 16:10									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin So how much is the current going rate for a single family detached home in San Diego? $450,000 is the county wide median home price. Just 10 years ago it was like $200,000 but now you can't even buy an apartment for $200,000.

That's not bad. You can't buy an apartment here with $450,000.

	13-06-2004 16:18									#43
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"A 3 bed semi shed?"

The house didn't look too bad...

	13-06-2004 16:34									#44
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Though the estate...

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	13-06-2004 16:46									#45
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Oedin and Ted:

Why don't you just ask MtG for the name of his realtor?

	13-06-2004 17:23									#46
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How much of a fall do people expect? I see 20% as too little, for the UK anyway. That would only take us back to last year's prices, roughly. Since prices in booms and busts over- and under-shoot, I reckon a 30-40% fall is likely. Mortgage lenders will be severely criticised for lending in reckless multiples of income. Sell now!

	13-06-2004 17:39									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer strangely, i hear the property taxes are real high. the land and houses are basically worthless though.

your city may be losing population. That will explain it. Some cities in the north and northeast are losing population.

	13-06-2004 20:59									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger That's not bad. You can't buy an apartment here with $450,000.

$450,000 comes to be around $2200 per month for 30 years.

	13-06-2004 21:11									#49
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A nice house is $100,000 here, but it's a 45-min. drive to the nearest large city (Fargo).

	13-06-2004 21:29									#50
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is not a large city.

	13-06-2004 21:41									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I figure, no problem, I have a VA home loan for being a vet plus I can just rent out a room but the VA office says the home loans max out at $250,000! I can't buy anything with so little an amount! Why didn't the government make the VA loans big enough so you can actually afford to buy something?

Maybe this doesn't make sense, but why not take that VA loan and then find some other way to finance for the other $200,000??

	13-06-2004 21:59									#52
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Same in Hull, but would you want to live there?

	13-06-2004 22:02									#53
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It's just an inconceivable amount of money though MrFun...I am looking at trying to save a substantial amount, but at present prices, assuming they stagnate, it is going to take me a while to get anything substantial...

	13-06-2004 22:08									#54
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quote: Originally posted by pchang is not a large city.

100,000 people is big for a person who livs in a town with 532 people.

	13-06-2004 22:09									#55
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quote: but at present prices, assuming they stagnate, it is going to take me a while to get anything substantial

10 to 15 years to return to their realistic value if their prices grow at 0%.

But a housing boom in Britain has never before been followed by mere stagnation: there's always been a crash to follow. Make of that what you will.

	13-06-2004 22:19									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Odin 100,000 people is big for a person who livs in a town with 532 people.

532 people and a 100k place is 45 minutes away...that would drive me utterly insane

	13-06-2004 23:24									#57
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SoCal has been stretching the limits of what is a suitable place to build detached houses for years. It won't be long before a modest-sized house in SoCal costs more than a Manhattan penthouse. Land values in San Diego (which bills itself as the biggest small city in America) can justify highrise construction... but the area is limited to suburban style development.

Capitalism Capitalism + suburbia

	13-06-2004 23:31									#58
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Smiley: Downtown is absolutely full of high rise construction. I was down there yesterday and counted no less then 20 brand spanking new high rises (meaning more then 30 stories) being built. The city has spent alot of money expanding the trolley, building the new base ball stadium, and the new central library downtown and people are now flocking there. I'd say downtown San Diego is one of the few places in California where New York style Apartment living is the norm. There is supposedly 300,000 new high rise housing units being put in over the next 8-10 years.

	13-06-2004 23:37									#59
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BTW as an update the old man and I went looking in the Mira Mesa area today. I found a detached town home for $395,000. It's a 3bd/2bath 1350 sq ft place with a two car attached car port. There are no front yards but there are lots of green open spaces in the common area plus the units were built in the late 70's so the trees are all mature. My parents actually own three places in the same complex which they rent out including one they bought in 1979 for $68,000. It's in a nice middle class area with two parks, a good elementry school, a good middle school, and a community college with in .75 miles. There's also the same high school I graduated from with in 1 mile. The place is even at the end of a cul de sac.

	13-06-2004 23:47									#60
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Oedin and Ted: Why don't you just ask MtG for the name of his realtor?

I would but the 3 hour commutes each way are too much for me.