14-06-2004 03:05									#1
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Start

Tabejin send 50g

BC builds Worker, BC130b
Izz, Ciao build archers
Burundy builds settler, adjust for the 4 food it needs to grow


Cities

Adjust Izz for +5f
Izz starts worker


Worker Moves

Izz112, Izz190b and Izz170b were actually at Pl-7, not SF8. They chop.
3 workers at BC222 road
3 workers at Pl7 chop
CE and PoB at Cov1 chop
Farley chops Jungle at Cov-3
NW4 and BC130b move to BC22
'SexyTune-3'move 1
Izz111, Izz109, Izz250 move to jungle Pl77
Catdrill mines


Naval

Queen Vic moves 41, sees Barb (Gaul) galley and fortifies
3 galleys with cargo move 23 and fort. They cross next turn.


Unit Moves - Core & Jungle

Horseman and 3 Archers move south on war road
Northern settler arrives at City Site SexyTune111 (on auto) and joined by warrior
New archer from Izz moves to Silesia
New archer from Ciao moves 236


Unit Moves - South

FP moves 9 on his way North to upgrade, and look out for barbs
horse at SP13 unites with stack
Main stack stays


Unit Moves - West

Scout stays
N.Warr into Frisco
S.Warr stays


End

Invention in 3. -97gpt, 812g, (0.9.1)
Checked lux at 10%.


Next turn

unfort HMSQV if she still floats, and the Howler force.


Thoughts

With heavy chopping going on around Plymouth, we chould switch the harbour to a library
Also, we'll need a few warriors for the new cities in the deep south-west. Perhaps Frisco - currently on a worker

	14-06-2004 15:33									#2
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I'm wondering whether we should try hiring Tabemono to set up an embassy with the Monkeys and spy on Howler. I reckon they've been pop-rushing NMs in there, and if they have three we've no chance. Two will be a struggle.

	15-06-2004 00:43									#3
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Library: sure, I agree.

City investigation: That could be expensive, unless they've already set up the embassy and so we'd only have to pay for the investigation itself.

I'm open to asking them. I'll send a PM to... somebody over there.

-Arrian

	15-06-2004 08:32									#4
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sounds like a good idea, the investigation...

	15-06-2004 18:06									#5
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See the contact thread. They do not have an embassy set up, and want us to help pay the cost...

I asked them to check on how much the embassy will cost, and tentatively offered to pay 1/2 of it, plus the cost of the investigation itself.

-Arrian

	15-06-2004 19:56									#6
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that invention deal he proposed stinks, imho. is that how things have been done in this game?


how much can we afford to give for an embassy/investigation? Can we afford not to do it?

	17-06-2004 01:37									#7
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The way we did tech deals before contact with the other continent was that we tried to arrange things such that Python and CoD researched techs that were equal in editor cost, and traded. We would have done the same with Monkey, but they were already behind when we met them and their land dictacted a poorer economy than either Cod or Python.

So we got creative. We did 2 or 3 deals that involved them allowing us to pop huts in their part of the continent (essentially: they agree not to pop 'em, but rather to lead us to them and let us pop them when we chose to) in exchange for techs. This worked out rather well overall. We got 1 empty hut, but we also got 2 techs, IIRC.

Invention is being jointly funded by Python, CoD and Tabemono. As far as I'm concerned, profit from the sale of the tech is just gravvy. Splitting it 3 ways, we're already getting it reasonably inexpensively.

I like the idea of having one team (Tabemono?) broker it and just dividing the profits 3 ways.

-Arrian

	17-06-2004 19:13									#8
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no I like one team brokering it, great idea to avoid the GoW feudal situation. I don't like each team having a specific number of customers to give to...sounds very messy