16-06-2004 01:10									#1
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Is there no official forum for Civ?

I would like to know if there is any new Civ game on its way of any kind, and if there is an official forum for Civ I would like to come up with ideas for the next Civ game to improve it.

Can anyone tell me anything about an official Civ forum or if there is any Civ game planned present?

	16-06-2004 01:29									#2
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There is an Atari forum (Atari publishes Civ3). But it's not very active, and I'd definitely recommend poly over it.

There is another civ coming eventually; Civ4 is apparently in the very early design phase at Firaxis. Edit: Very early design phase=the actual game is a few years away. But the design of the game will be locked in far before that, so if you have ideas, now is the time to post them.

If you have some ideas for Civ4, try the Civilization Games General/Future Forum.

	16-06-2004 01:41									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep There is an Atari forum (Atari publishes Civ3). But it's not very active, and I'd definitely recommend poly over it. If you have some ideas for Civ4, try the Civilization Games General/Future Forum.

Well, the reason i wanted the official forum was because of the "future forum", and thx for telling me about it . What i want is a forum that some of the devs of the game checks from time to time, not that i have anything about discussing with them, but it's eventually the devs that pick what to implement to the game.

	16-06-2004 02:26									#4
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The dev are checking on this forum and CFC from time to time. Mike and Jesse and a few others post here at times and have asked for input on a few sites. I guess I should have mention Soren as well.

	16-06-2004 02:37									#5
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Oh ok, that's what i like. This will surely encourage me to come up with ideas for Civ4. Can i somehow see those three are the devs if i forget their names (e.g. stated in their username or below it as VIP of some sort)?

	16-06-2004 02:47									#6
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You will recognize them. Developers have FIRAXIS in their user name, and publishers have it said under their name (where it says Settler for you).

This forum is almost the official civ forum. Firaxis guys check here every day, and see the relevant things. Also, the List for Civ 4 that is currently under development will, after its compilation, be sent straight to them, so no worries, this is the right place .

	16-06-2004 02:53									#7
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Ah, sounds great. Thx for the info - guess i will start posting on the future board once i've checked what has already been discussed.

And i see images are not allowed in the signature - is that true, as this is not my first forum and i usally put in a small image that will state a top 5 list for what i would like to have in Civ4.

Another forum had just put in a maximum of pixels for the pic and a maximum file size.

	16-06-2004 02:55									#8
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Nope, we don't allow for signature images here, for several reasons, one of which is that we want our pages to load reasonably fast, but there are other reasons as well .

Don't worry, this is a nice place, and once you start posting enough, you will be known around here (in the areas you post in, that is), and so will be your ideas.

	16-06-2004 03:23									#9
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quote: Can i somehow see those three are the devs if i forget their names (e.g. stated in their username or below it as VIP of some sort)?

Not only Firaxis posts here btw, so the DEV's from BigHugeGames Rise of Nations) and others.

quote: Nope, we don't allow for signature images here,

..and never will !!!!
Trust me those images are a pain in the ....after a few days, hmm come to think of it, they are so the first time too.

	16-06-2004 03:32									#10
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The BHG devs are great. I remember one of them answering my technical questions 5 minutes after I posted them .

And alva, never try to predict the future decisions of our grand godz .

	16-06-2004 03:52									#11
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Hmmm, somehow I think I'm right this one though.

	16-06-2004 04:21									#12
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Yes you are. But someday, something will be changed just for the sake of proving many people wrong .

	16-06-2004 13:12									#13
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I haven't seen much FIRAXIS guys post overhere recently. What is their most recent posting?

I believe they're reading these posts though. (any change you firaxis guys can confirm this )

	16-06-2004 18:37									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep There is another civ coming eventually; Civ4 is apparently in the very early design phase at Firaxis. Edit: Very early design phase=the actual game is a few years away. But the design of the game will be locked in far before that, so if you have ideas, now is the time to post them.

FWIW, publishers hate schedules that go over 2 years. It ties up their money for too long. Since Firaxis has started on it months ago...

	16-06-2004 18:58									#15
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Target imo is late 05 ( around....say....christmas. )

	16-06-2004 22:45									#16
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I think it'll be released earlier. They're busy on it for almost a year already, I think.
I wouldn't be surprised if they'll release it christmas '04

They won't publish that much info as with civ3, since that worked contra-productive. The long long hype worked against them. (yin anyone?)

	16-06-2004 22:46									#17
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quote: Originally posted by alva Target imo is late 05 ( around....say....christmas. )

About a month before Christmas Civ3.5 will come on sale. Civ4 proper (i.e the finished version) will be released as a patch at the end of January

	16-06-2004 23:15									#18
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No, Civ 3 will not be released this year. 6 months from releae, you would have some info. They are in the very early planning stages, or were a few months ago, and that means just that. From what I've heard, some coding has already been started, but I expect a Christmas 2005 release to be the earliest.

And Cybershy, I assure you that they read the posts... I know .

	16-06-2004 23:21									#19
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I cannot image they could get it out by xmas. I agree with Solver, next xmas (2005) is the best they could expect.

E3 2005 should be the unveiling.

	16-06-2004 23:27									#20
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Civ4 this year? If it happened, I wouldn't touch this game with a ten-foot poll...

	17-06-2004 06:24									#21
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If Civ4 were going to be released this year, the marketing campaign would already have started with sneak previews to the major magazines and websites, Special closed door E3 showings, developer diary updates, etc. For a AAA title, there are certain formalities that need to be followed to ensure sales.

Since this hasn't happened, it is safe to assume that it won't be released this year.

	17-06-2004 10:58									#22
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Well, last time things went pretty wrong because of that 'long long long' marketing campaign.

	17-06-2004 16:38									#23
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Last time things went wrong mainly because they had nearly 100% turn over in the development team about half way through the project (the original team left to form their own company).

	17-06-2004 17:09									#24
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We should make a bet on who 'll leave the team this time

	17-06-2004 17:13									#25
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Sid?

	18-06-2004 06:18									#26
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Jeff Briggs' Civilization IV?

	18-06-2004 10:40									#27
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Even if Sid would leave it would most obviously still be named "Sid Meier's Civilization IV"

	18-06-2004 16:22									#28
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In reality, it is Soren Johnson's Civ4.

	21-06-2004 18:11									#29
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How do you know?

	21-06-2004 18:15									#30
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Soren is the lead designer of Civ 4.