21-06-2004 20:51									#31
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The main problem with men are not emotions, it is their urge for absolute control.

	21-06-2004 21:30									#32
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Haven't forgotten about a woman's urge to control her partner, didn't you? O yes, and that's also absolute...

	21-06-2004 21:52									#33
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Pah. A woman doesn't want control, she just doesn't want to be controlled.

	21-06-2004 22:01									#34
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...and ensures this state of being uncontrolled by controlling... yes, her partner obviously!

	21-06-2004 22:24									#35
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What's fun in controlling one person? It's much more fun stirring up troubles everywhere.

	21-06-2004 22:47									#36
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I didn't say it stopped with controlling a partner...

	25-06-2004 01:57									#37
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

I guess this proposal could be considered accepted.
Based on the comments in this thread, I suggest the following specifications:

• To gift/trade a base to another faction, that faction must have a military unit in the to-be-traded base's radius theoretically able to move into that base. (Meaning eg a ship, former or needlejet in the base radius of a land base is not sufficient.)
  
• A base that has been gifted/traded cannot be transferred ownership again for twenty years, unless the base owner is changed to a third faction by conquest in the meantime. Then the counter resets.
  
• If we're indeed going to use base gifting/trading, first test this method out on another random game using Codicil, to make sure there aren't any unintended effects of temporarily changing a human faction to an AI etc.

	25-06-2004 02:12									#38
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A technical question. Say if I'm Hive and gift one of my bases to PUT. Will that base then have both free perimeter and free nodes?

	25-06-2004 03:20									#39
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Mmm, last ACDG, when CyCon mindcontrolled a just by Hive conquered base, the perimeter defense didn't come with it IIRC. I agree, not completely the same, but it gives an indication of how the game perceives this.

	25-06-2004 03:22									#40
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This should normally be easily testable by starting a game with the Hive and gifting a base to the UoP.

	25-06-2004 04:57									#41
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By the way one test I did showed that when a base is gifted all the units inside the base were gifted with it.

I still need to test the effects on free facilities.

	25-06-2004 11:52									#42
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Very cool app non the less, Kody.

	25-06-2004 20:49									#43
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So anybody tested it yet? In Gufnork Rumble I and Gufnork entertained the idea that we would exchange entire territory so both of us would have two free facilities.

	25-06-2004 21:43									#44
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You would also be drowning in b-drones.

	25-06-2004 21:52									#45
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The free facility from the original owner of the base is kept. Your free facility isn't added.

B-drones levels don't update properly when bases are traded.

If the person you're trading with is an attrocity victim they won't talk long enough to trade with you.