22-06-2004 06:00									#1
	Turn 54, 1675 BC Suffering from ads?

Orders from the Ministers:

ALL MINISTERS, please feel free to edit this post to enter in your orders.

Post save here

Pre-Turn Actions


Military Orders
(warriors)
Roadkill: Remain Foritifed as sentry
Anthea: 8 (or 6, if we're smart)
Grog: 3
Ares: Remain Foritifed as sentry
Con: MP in NA
Diomedes: MP in PH
Jason: MP in poly
Odysseus: MP in Hypnos

(hoplite)
Bellerophan: MP in poly

(archers)
Phobos: 4

(curragh)
Argo: continue


Worker Orders

#1 Roads-R-Us -
#2 Fred & Barny -

City Orders

#1 Apolyton - wf - Settler (ivory), Hoplite, Settler (horse), Barracks
#2 Hypnos - wf - Hoplite, Worker, Archer, Warrior
#3 Poseidon's Harbor - wf - Barracks (under way), worker, archer
#4 Naked Aphrodite - wf - Barracks (under way), hoplite

Diplomacy To Be Completed

Send an official corrospondance to CDG about their proposals:

Tech trade
Great Lighthouse
future border agreements.

Note: nothing real has to be stated, we just need to send them official corrospondance telling them status of our discussions. MOI-GK


Any Other Things To Be Done
Purchase a barbarian slave worker from PAL as soon as possible for one gold. Gold MUST change hands to be in compliance with UN rules and regs (or so I am told - GK)

Last edited by Inverse Icarus on 25-06-2004 at 23:21

	25-06-2004 05:36									#2
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I have not received the last 2 saves. What is up?

There shouldn't be much in the way for workforce orders, and the workers are already have their game plans - one is on his way to the horsies, and the other is putzing around trying to get us a road over to the ivory and doing misc. homeland improvements. Togas appears to be very current and up to date on what is what, so if there are specific Q's he can probably answer them if I am not around.

I will be mostly absent durring the next 2-3 weeks. Logging on, but I will be spending most of my computer time fixing the spreadsheet I am making (I will post a the updated version in the MOI thread showing where I stand, and try to keep that updated). I will be moving into my new house, so that is why I will be mostly absent.

Sorry if this causes any issues or problems. Please accept my appologies in advance.

GK

	25-06-2004 11:04									#3
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i believe rockbandit is acting up. i usually recieve the saves 2-3 DAYS after it has been sent.

	25-06-2004 18:59									#4
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Uber, you don't know how right you are...

PALs capital is undefended.

here is the pic

we could gut them now, they would have a problem attacking our hoplites. If they don't have iron...we could qualify by killing CDG and PAL.

Last edited by Krill on 25-06-2004 at 19:20

	25-06-2004 23:16									#5
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I demand we openly discuss attacking PAL now. Sacking their capital now would greatly set them back, and teach them a damned lesson for their super-fast-no-defense REXing.

I am willing to argue for it, but I'll just lay this down now to kick it off: I would no doubt PAL would do it if they were us, and we were them.

	25-06-2004 23:28									#6
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If we took their capital, we'd get a size 3 city in their land. There would be some resistance, no doubt, but if it ended quickly (1-2 turns) we could poprush a hoplite there. That would buy us a lot of time while they took it back.

The only problem is if they already have horsemen nearby. If they're well roaded (which they should be, with Industrious and no defenders) They could probably take back their city the next turn. which brings me to the point of razing the city as soon as we take it. All this would do is slow them down a lot, mostly in their expansion (I doubt this city is a war machine).

This would, however, be a complete upheavel of everything we've planned. We should not let that discourage us, and should think about this openly, and objectively.

CDG is going to be an easy kill. There's no doubt about that. So long as they don't move offensively towards us we'll be fine.

	26-06-2004 01:30									#7
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We don't want a lousy rep to follow us into the next game.

	26-06-2004 04:01									#8
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We want to make it into the next game. A war with PAL will help to insure it.

	26-06-2004 05:25									#9
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I'm going to a play shortly and don't have time right now to do the save.

Uber brings up some interesting points. I don't know if I'm convinced, but I do think it's important enough to be discussed.

I am going to create a discussion thread regarding if we should attack PAL's open capital. However, the matter must be resolved within 24 hours of us receiving the save, which was earlier today ...

We have to settle this tonight. Please view that thread and post in it.

--Togas

	26-06-2004 06:47									#10
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Suggested WF:

Apolyton: 12-13-14-18
Hypnos: 8-17-19
Posedion's Harbor: Same (3-7)

Apolyton, due to receiving from extra shields from growing on to the forest (finally!) doesn't need 6 spt, but this will provide it anyway; I couldn't find another way to get it 2 fpt while giving Hypnos the cattle for 3 fpt (which will work out nicely if it receives the cattle next turn as well; it'll grow in 3 turns at the same time it builds a worker).

	26-06-2004 10:23									#11
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The save will be played in around an hour.

Judging by the posted poll, it's the dominant opinion that we should not attack PAL, and that's the course of action I plan to take when I do play the game.

	26-06-2004 13:07									#12
	Turn Report: 1675 B.C. Got spare money?

Myself and Kloreep present and active. (Arnelos, E_T, WIA inactive, but still there).

Units
Worker Roads R Us mines sugar tile.
Worker Fred and Barney moves four, mines bonus grass

Warrior Roadkill: fortifies
Warrior Anthea: 8
Warrior Grog: 3

Archer Phobos: 4

Curragah Argo: 68

All other units remain fortified.


Cities
Let's try something else here...

code:
				Current Project (turns left)	turns until growth	spt	fpt	cpt	wf	
Apolyton			Settler (2)			5			6	10	10	12-13-14-18
Hypnos				Hoplite (1)			3			5	9	5	8-17-19
Poseidon's Harbor		Barracks (11)			8			2	6	3	3-7
Naked Aphrodite			Barracks (36)			6			1	4	1	8

Finances
35g, -1gpt
Math in 3

Other
3rd in Pop, GNP, Production, and Area. 5th in Family Size.

Screenshots

	26-06-2004 20:49									#13
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I like your turn report Oct Very informative!

	27-06-2004 07:59									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master I like your turn report Oct Very informative!

Agreed . It also has very good screenshots (very helpful for making my maps).

GOD