23-06-2004 08:08									#1
	Why is it you can't win when you retire? Tired of ads?

Also I've noticed sometimes you get the replay screen and the screen where the guy hits the scale thingy with the hammer, and sometimes I don't.

I clearly have the highest score, why can't I win? It always says you suffer a humiliating feat.

I don't think I should have to play all the way towards the end. If I have the highest score, I should win when I retire.

	23-06-2004 08:14									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I clearly have the highest score, why can't I win? It always says you suffer a humiliating feat. I don't think I should have to play all the way towards the end. If I have the highest score, I should win when I retire.

Thing is, what if you're only ahead by a few points and you're facing an undefeatable incoming army? Score isn't the best indicator of your chances at winning other ways, or your chances of losing to someone else before reaching 2050.

	23-06-2004 09:09									#3
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what does winning mean to you? do you think that you won? Why not just save the game and continue later.

	23-06-2004 09:51									#4
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Retiring is conceding the game. What actually happens to your civ no longer matters since you conceded. It collapses without the benefit ( ) of your inspired leadership.
My favorite is imagining my continent sinking under the ocean. Other possibilities include an asteroid strike, Great Flood, a mysterious disappearence (like the Mayas), a nuclear alpha strike, Britney Spears being elected president, etc., etc.

	23-06-2004 11:19									#5
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Retiring is giving it up.
The pressure became too much to you.

If Bush would retire today all his enemy would claim victory on him.

	23-06-2004 12:03									#6
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy If Bush would retire today all his enemy would claim victory on him.

Good analogy. However, the country wouldn't fall apart if he did.

	23-06-2004 12:07									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Good analogy. However, the country wouldn't fall apart if he did.

Neither does your country fall apart in civ.
It just continues while you can't see it

	23-06-2004 12:32									#8
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy Neither does your country fall apart in civ. It just continues while you can't see it

Too bad you can't just let the computer take over and play itself to see how everything turns out.

	23-06-2004 12:48									#9
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The AI would probably do most things totally different then you would.... and your best friends would suddenly turn into your worst enemies.

You surely don't want to see that happen

	23-06-2004 12:57									#10
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I'm assuming since I retired I don't care what happens to them. I'd hate to see them do better without me though.

	23-06-2004 14:15									#11
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Don't bother about that, being a better cheater should not harm your ego.

	23-06-2004 16:02									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Too bad you can't just let the computer take over and play itself to see how everything turns out.

There is a novel in french* like this.
At the end, the "sims" created a "bomb" to destroy the computer screen in front of the human "god".
After that, I've always considerated my civs with respect

* "La révolution des fourmis" (Ant's revolution) by Bernard Weber

	23-06-2004 18:37									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Too bad you can't just let the computer take over and play itself to see how everything turns out.

One cool thing I liked about CIV-II is with the cheat menu you could set up a game where you could watch all the AI's play out their moves. By eliminating your CIV from the game the computer would just play itself. One thing I noticed that once the human player was out of the game the AI's seem to get along peacefully.

	23-06-2004 19:39									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident Also I've noticed sometimes you get the replay screen and the screen where the guy hits the scale thingy with the hammer, and sometimes I don't. I clearly have the highest score, why can't I win? It always says you suffer a humiliating feat. I don't think I should have to play all the way towards the end. If I have the highest score, I should win when I retire.

Then you would win on the first turn, because you found a city before everyone else.

	23-06-2004 19:55									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Retiring is conceding the game. What actually happens to your civ no longer matters since you conceded. It collapses without the benefit ( ) of your inspired leadership. My favorite is imagining my continent sinking under the ocean. Other possibilities include an asteroid strike, Great Flood, a mysterious disappearence (like the Mayas), a nuclear alpha strike, Britney Spears being elected president, etc., etc.

George Bush becoming president...

	23-06-2004 20:45									#16
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What was said in the posts above, and:

High Score is listed in the Victory conditions as a “tie breaker” if none of the other victory conditions are met prior to the end of the game by turns. It is victory by default. Therefore, prior to the end of the game you can’t win by high score and quitting before meeting the other victory conditions means you lose.

	23-06-2004 22:11									#17
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George Bush is already president

So you're saying that the US has fallen apart?

	23-06-2004 22:28									#18
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No pain, no gain, Diss. Gotta play it out to earn your reward.

-Arrian

	24-06-2004 04:19									#19
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yes it was pain. I gave up on my 362 X 362 earth map. I thought I could do it. But after playing a game on a tiny map with quick turns, I don't think I can go back. I just wanted to try it once. I prefer small maps or standard maps.

	24-06-2004 06:45									#20
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I usually play on huge maps with tons of nations, even though I almost never finish my game. Small maps are nice once in a while, but I find them to be incredibly easy compared to big maps.

First post (I think) since I registered, ages ago...

EDIT: Probably my last post, too, lol. And off topic.

	24-06-2004 07:44									#21
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I've always found tiny maps harder than standard or even huge maps. Maybe I'm just wierd. Maybe I should try a tiny pangea next time. Haven't tried that yet.

	24-06-2004 09:22									#22
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quote: Originally posted by zorbop George Bush becoming president...

I once listed a second Bush administration at the bottom of a list of natural disasters and had a mod jump all over me. However, I thought Ted Striker would like the Britney reference (he'd hit it, BTW ).