24-06-2004 03:34									#31
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They've had to pump their commerce to the lux slider and to gold for upgrades for a while now due to the war.

	24-06-2004 03:42									#32
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quote: If we load them back on the boats and then move them through the narrow channel to Parth, they'll see us coming, and they'll only need 10-15 Ansar/units to block any possible landing spots (in the north, that is; they'd need even more units in the south to block us from landing in former CGN land).

I don't exactly see your point. Trip was proposing sending them to Flammburg, which would (I assume) mean going south, not north. Also, isn't the whole point for them to see us coming and thus keep 10-15 or more ansars away from Parth?

	24-06-2004 03:52									#33
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Err, I mean the channel to Flammburg.

And yes, we would tie up those 10-15 Ansar; but we could tie up more simply on land where they'd actually have to think about fighting us.

	24-06-2004 04:33									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Trip The thing is that GWT won't have Navigation for quite some time - they only JUST got Theology at a 40-turn pace, and could be continuing that, especially while GWT is grappling with crippling 50+% WW. Knowing that, I believe GWT's primary force concentration would probably be defensive for the time being, as they are well aware of the fact that we can invade them much sooner than the other way around due to our tech lead.

Trip, how does GWT getting Sistines figure into that WW amount??

E_T

	24-06-2004 04:33									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen No way we could threaten Flammburg in time. Our units will reload onto the caravels on D-Day + 3 (if they survive). By D-Day + 7 (Parth Strike) those caravels will not even have reached the Bay around Flammburg. If Flammburg is to be threatened (and this is what I'm pushing for) I say it be CFC who does it.

Well, by that math whether we pack up our forces or not and try to do something with them they won't reach anywhere in time, GCA territory or anything.

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quote: Originally posted by E_T Trip, how does GWT getting Sistines figure into that WW amount?? E_T

Depends on how many Cathedrals they have.

I would say if they have Cathedrals in ALL of their large cities (size 7+) then they could go down to 40% lux, but that would cripple quite a few smaller cities (requiring them to have 2+ entertainers each).

	24-06-2004 05:27									#37
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quote: Originally posted by E_T As you have shown, in the analysis, that GWT will have a sufficient force available to cover the area.

We're obviously not looking at the same map.

GWT is incapable of covering both their productive core and the Ruhrpott area at the same time. They either have to split up their forces or prioritize.

	24-06-2004 05:36									#38
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But they have enough units to split their forces equally and still cover both well enough to stop us.

	24-06-2004 05:54									#39
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This is the key. How many Ansars do they have?

	24-06-2004 05:57									#40
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I would guesstimate 45-50 and growing rapidly (they're still building units faster than we are).