23-06-2004 12:59									#1
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So here it is. The long awaited Cold War NES. We will need someone(reliable) to moderate. So if you know any good former NESsers tell them about it. I would like to play myself.

I have been exchanging emails with Tassadar about this NES abit lately. Since there is only limited amount of players, we suggest having only following nations: SU, USA, West Continental
Europe(France, Italy, Benelux, Spain, etc),GB, BRD, DDR, Finland, Cuba,
Yugoslavia, China. 10 Nations. What do you think about these?


- I would like to take Cuba

Last edited by laurentius on 23-06-2004 at 13:53

	23-06-2004 13:36									#2
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Cool. DDR for me please

Methril used to moderate alot of NESs, maybe you could drag him into it...

	23-06-2004 19:40									#3
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Whats needed:

- Moderator

- Map of the world with Cold War borders

- Rules

- Players (at least 8)

10 Nations to play: SU, USA, West Continental
Europe(France, Italy, Benelux, Spain, etc), GB, BRD, DDR, Finland, Cuba,
Yugoslavia, China.

I was thinking that unless we get 20 or more players, the moderator should control the rest of the world. Central America, Japan, Africa, ME. etc. Not as nations but in case players refer to those areas for example: "Cuba sends 200 guerillas to Guatemala" or "USA funds right-wing Contras with 2000 M16"

Ideas? What else do we need?

Last edited by laurentius on 23-06-2004 at 19:58

	23-06-2004 22:54									#4
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How's this for a map? (Player nations: Canada, USA, Cuba, Britain, France, BRD, DDR, Yugoslavia, USSR, Poland, Finland, Israel, Egypt, South Africa, Pakistan, India, China, North Korea, South Korea, Australia.)

[Other potential countries include Japan, Taiwan, Phillipines, Syria, Jordan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, or colonies such as Vietnam.]

I have rules and stats, all you need to decide is whether you want a levels based military e.g. small, medium, large...or a numbers-based military e.g. 3000 tanks, 25000 mechanized infantry etc.

Attachment: cold war 1950.gif
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	25-06-2004 09:37									#5
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I'll volunteer to mod

	25-06-2004 21:39									#6
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Starting year? BTW I will take either Egypt or Yugoslavia.

	26-06-2004 00:34									#7
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The map is 1950.

Nuclear Master--do you want me to send you the stats? Or do you have your own?

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I'd appreciate if you sent me the stats

	27-06-2004 05:27									#9
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It looks like we have only five people interested

	29-06-2004 21:17									#10
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Stats have been sent.
I claim Canada.

	30-06-2004 02:27									#11
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Errr... what stats do we need to send exactly

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No stats. He sent me the stats for the nations, which I will be posting in a bit.

	02-07-2004 20:52									#13
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1950

Comprehensive Nation Simulator (CNS).


military effectiveness (combination of training, equipment, ability to project force and respond quickly, etc. Measures whether your military is capable of defending on home front only or able to move across the globe) : embarrassing, poor, average, good, exceptional

espionage/Secret Police : local, limited, basic, adequate, professional, extensive, ubiquitous, illuminati [strength of spies, intelligence gathering, counterespionage, both internal and external]

Common living conditions (how well the average person lives, includes social infrastructure such as schools and hospitals, availability of goods and consumer items) : Abysmal, Squalid, Poor, Average, Good, Very Good, Exceptional, Utopian


Military levels :

None, Infinitesimal, Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, Very Large, Huge, Enormous, Outrageous

Economy (Average commercial health) :

Primitive, Backwards, Poor, Struggling, Average, Good, Thriving, Exceptional, Glorious, Awe Inspiring

Discontent (Amount of unhappiness, different forms of governments can handle different amounts of unhappiness, and it will be manifested in different ways) :

Insignificant, Minor, Some, Significant, Worrisome, Open Revolt


Tech Level :

Just to generally keep track of how advanced things are, projects, don’t need to be too specific


Manufacturing Base (This is on an absolute scale, so small countries will only be able to have moderate ratings. This includes physical infrastructure, such as power plants and assembly lines, NOT to be confused with social infrastructure, which is covered in Common Living conditions ) :

primitive, scattered, inadequate, limited, varied, sufficient, plentiful, extensive, burgeoning, awesome


Nuclear weapons (destructive power of your arsenal.)

few, handful, some, many, frightening, catastrophic, apocalyptic

Nuclear range (how far you have the potential to deliver a nuclear attack from a basing site) :

Local, International, Intercontinental, Global


Government/Society :

Blurb, e.g. “Absolute despotism enforced by a merciless secret police force. Despite this, the population is annoyingly upbeat and optimistic” etc. Can also include miscellaneous information, such as social mobility, etc., whatever you feel needs to be noted.


Finland
Army: Small
Navy: Tiny
Air Force: Infinitesimal
Military Effectiveness: Average
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Average
Economy: Average
Discontent: Minor
Tech Level: parity
Manufacturing Base: Inadequate
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Mixed Market Republic


Poland
Army: Small
Navy: Tiny
Air Force: Tiny
Military Effectiveness: Average
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Poor
Economy: Poor
Discontent: Significant
Tech Level: Parity
Manufacturing Base: Limited
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Communist Control


North Korea
Army: Small
Navy: Tiny
Air Force: Infinitesimal
Military Effectiveness: Poor
Espionage/Secret Police: Adequate
Common Living Conditions: Squalid
Economy: Backwards
Discontent: Significant
Tech Level: Lagging
Manufacturing Base: Inadequate
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Communist Controlled Collectivized Economy


South Korea
Army: Small
Navy: Tiny
Air Force: Infinitesimal
Military Effectiveness: Poor
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Squalid
Economy: Backwards
Discontent: Significant
Tech Level: Lagging
Manufacturing Base: Scattered
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Republic Strong Centralized Government


South Africa
Army: Small
Navy: Small
Air Force: Tiny
Military Effectiveness: Average
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Poor
Economy: Average
Discontent: Significant
Tech Level: Parity
Manufacturing Base: Limited
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Market Apartheid Parliamentary


Pakistan
Army: Medium
Navy: Small
Air Force: Tiny
Military Effectiveness: Average
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Poor
Economy: Poor
Discontent: Some
Tech Level: Lagging
Manufacturing Base: Limited
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Islamic/Military Coalition Rule


China
Army: Large
Navy: Small
Air Force: Tiny
Military Effectiveness: Poor
Espionage/Secret Police: Adequate
Common Living Conditions: Poor
Economy: Poor
Discontent: Significant
Tech Level: Lagging
Manufacturing Base: Varied
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Communist Bureaucracy


Australia
Army: Small
Navy: Small
Air Force: Tiny
Military Effectiveness: Average
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Good
Economy: Good
Discontent: Minor
Tech Level: Parity
Manufacturing Base: Varied
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Republic


Canada
Army: Small
Navy: Small
Air Force: Small
Military Effectiveness: Average
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Good
Economy: Good
Discontent: Minor
Tech Level: Parity
Manufacturing Base:
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Republic


India
Army: Medium
Navy: Small
Air Force: Tiny
Military Effectiveness: Average
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Poor
Economy: Poor
Discontent: Some
Tech Level: Parity
Manufacturing Base: Varied
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Mixed Market Parliamentary


Yugoslavia
Army: Small
Navy: Tiny
Air Force: Infinitesimal
Military Effectiveness: Poor
Espionage/Secret Police: Adequate
Common Living Conditions: Poor
Economy: Struggling
Discontent: Significant
Tech Level: parity
Manufacturing Base: Inadequate
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Communist Control


Egypt
Army: Medium
Navy: Small
Air Force: Infinitesimal
Military Effectiveness: Poor
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Poor
Economy: Poor
Discontent: Some
Tech Level: lagging
Manufacturing Base: Inadequate
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Loose Monarchy


Israel
Army: Small
Navy: Infinitesimal
Air Force: Infinitesimal
Military Effectiveness: Good
Espionage/Secret Police: Adequate
Common Living Conditions: Average
Economy: Average
Discontent: Some
Tech Level: Parity
Manufacturing Base: Scattered
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Parliamentary Mixed Economy


BRD
Army: Tiny
Navy: Infinitesimal
Air Force: None
Military Effectiveness: Poor
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Poor
Economy: Struggling
Discontent: Some
Tech Level: Lagging
Manufacturing Base: Inadequate
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Western Federative Republic


DDR
Army: Tiny
Navy: Infinitesimal
Air Force: None
Military Effectiveness: Poor
Espionage/Secret Police: Adequate
Common Living Conditions: Poor
Economy: Poor
Discontent: Significant
Tech Level: Lagging
Manufacturing Base: Scattered
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Communist Party Controlled


France
Army: Medium
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Medium
Military Effectiveness: Poor
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Average
Economy: Struggling
Discontent: Some
Tech Level: Parity
Manufacturing Base: Limited
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Unitary Republic


Great Britain
Army: Medium
Navy: Large
Air Force: Medium
Military Effectiveness: Average
Espionage/Secret Police: Adequate
Common Living Conditions: Average
Economy: Struggling
Discontent: Some
Tech Level: Parity
Manufacturing Base: Limited
Nuclear Arsenal: NA
Nuclear Range: NA
Government/Society: Mixed Market Parliamentary


USA
Army: Large
Navy: Large
Air Force: Very Large
Military Effectiveness: Good
Espionage/Secret Police: Basic
Common Living Conditions: Very Good
Economy: Glorious
Discontent: Minor
Tech Level: Parity
Manufacturing Base: Extensive
Nuclear Arsenal: Some
Nuclear Range: International
Government/Society: Capitalist Federative Democracy.


USSR
Army: Very Large
Navy: Medium
Air Force: Medium
Military Effectiveness: Average
Espionage/Secret Police: Adequate
Common Living Conditions: Average
Economy: Struggling
Discontent: Significant
Tech Level: No new projects
Manufacturing Base: Plentiful
Nuclear Arsenal: Handful
Nuclear Range: International
Government/Society: Statist Totalitarianism; Centrally planned collectivized economy

Last edited by foolish_icarus on 02-07-2004 at 21:00

	02-07-2004 21:18									#14
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*Shuffling of papers*
*Microphone adjusted*

Announcer: "Honorable representatives: Five days ago, armies fielded by the northern zone of Korea crossed the parrallel and moved into Southern territory. The state and armies of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea are now executing war against the Republic of Korea. The specific details according to our best intelligence as of six hours ago are given in the documents that have been provided to each of you. You are assembled to determine what, if any, actions the Council of the United Nations will take in regards to this situation.

Chair: "Thank you. Chair will entertain a motion to recess for one hour to review the pertinent documents."

Member: "Second."

Chair: "All in favor?"

Voices: "Aye."

Chair: "All opposed?...We will recess for one hour."

One hour later...

Chair: "We are now in session. Is their a candidate for the floor?"

	02-07-2004 21:44									#15
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Please stop posting in this thread, and continue in the new thread I set up. Hope everyone has fun

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