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Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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wouldn't the smell of such a club be a bit... overpoweringly... bad?

Depends if you're smell-sensitive.
I sadly can't speak of experience, but I don't think this would have too much effect on me. Depending on the people, it could be a turn-on, or a turn-off.

Maybe it figures in the divorce papers because it was a turn-on to him, while it was a turn-off to her.

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WTF cares? A bazillion people signed that law hypocritically (is that a word?), on both sides of the fence.


Follow da link. He goes beyond DoMA.

Ryan got what was coming to him, in the end.

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Anyhow, it serves the Right right.

They certainly seem to be the ones who harp more on "decency" and "morality" in public officials. So if it comes around to bite them in the ass, it's well-deserved.

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Jesus, you lefties are a real piece of work. Clinton commited felonies, but his impeachment was "sexual McCarthyism." Ryan did nothing wrong, yet he "got what was coming to him." Really great logic.

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Ryan did nothing wrong, yet he "got what was coming to him." Really great logic.
If he wasn't good enough for Jeri, he's not good enough to vote for.

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Not at all. I don't think he should have to give up his Senate hopes just because of something silly like this. It's just funny when you get caught doing stuff you've raked others over the coals for.

Makes me believe in a benevolent God.

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If he wasn't good enough for Jeri, he's not good enough to vote for.


Now that's good logic.

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Hilarious thread, but UR should ban the **** out of MtG and Ming for posting babe pics.

Not that I mind the pics (hubba hubba!), but it's the principle of the thing.

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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MtG, be fair to JR. Once Jerri got a job in Hollywood, everyone knew their marriage was going to end.


He should have moved with her. What's more important, making millions a year as an investment banker, or being married to Jeri Ryan?

Well, actually you could do a lot with all that money...

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Maybe she wouldn't let him hit it.


If that was the case, maybe he ought to wonder why?

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That's like buying a Ferrari and be forced to watch it in the driveway.


Well, if you never fuel it or maintain it and trash the engine and tranny, all you do is get to watch it in the driveway, but is that necessarily the Ferrari's fault?

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Jesus, you lefties are a real piece of work. Clinton commited felonies, but his impeachment was "sexual McCarthyism." Ryan did nothing wrong, yet he "got what was coming to him." Really great logic.


A felony, relating to a civil trial for which the line of questioning should never have come up, and should have not been answered if his attorney's had done their jobs. Then again, then again, lots of politicians probably commit technical felonies (proof being a bit tougher) with respect to campaign finance games, income tax evasion wrt campaign, personal and governement office finances, etc.

Ryan "did nothing wrong" except get exposed for typical "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrisy which could hang him with his own ideological base.

If Ryan came out of the closet, he wouldn't be "doing anything wrong" either, but he'd still be committing political suicide.

Life's a ***** when you're a politician.

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Hilarious thread, but UR should ban the **** out of MtG and Ming for posting babe pics.

Not that I mind the pics (hubba hubba!), but it's the principle of the thing.


Mods by definition do not break the rules.

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If that was the case, maybe he ought to wonder why?



Well, if you never fuel it or maintain it and trash the engine and tranny, all you do is get to watch it in the driveway, but is that necessarily the Ferrari's fault?


DUH!

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Life's a ***** when you're a politician.


...and what goes around may very well come around...

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XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN JUNE 27, 2004 20:34:08 ET XXXXX

CHASE ON FOR SEALED KERRY DIVORCE DOCUMENTS; PAPER FRENZY AFTER ILLINOIS SENATE RACE RELEASE

After last week's front page headlines over ugly unsealed divorce records in the Republican Illinois senate race, media outlets now face a dilemma: What to do about Democrat presidential hopeful John Kerry's sealed divorce records!

The race is on in political and media circles to gauge the import of Kerry's sealed July 25, 1988 divorce from his first wife, Julia Stimson Thorne.

TRIBUNE, which successfully sued a court to gain access to Illinois Republican Jack Ryan's divorce papers and child custody records [over the objection of both Ryan and his former wife], is considering a similar push on Kerry, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

[TRIBUNE owns WLVI-TV Channel 56 in Boston. It could use its Massachusetts connection as a jumping point to petition the court which granted Kerry a divorce, sources explain.]

Other news outlets may soon follow.

CAMPAIGN CALLS DIVORCE DIGGING 'GUTTER BALL'

The Kerry campaign late Sunday called any old divorce digging a game of political "gutter ball."

"This is a trash hunt," said a senior Kerry source, who asked not to be named.

"No, I do not have a clue what is in the papers," explained the source. "But it is none of my business. And its none of your business, or any one's business... You're playing a game of gutter ball, Drudge."

"I would argue, adamantly, the records should remain sealed. And out of the hands of John's political enemies."

JUDGE: PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO KNOW

The Los Angeles judge which ordered the release of Ryan's sealed divorce ruled that the public interest in having access to the case records outweighed the Ryans' interest in protecting their child from the publicity that would follow the documents' release.

Ryan and his former wife released a statement saying they were "disturbed and angered" by last week's ruling by Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider, who was named a full judge by California Democrat Gov. Gray Davis.

"They were aware they were in a public court system and protection from embarrassment cannot be a basis for keeping from the public what's put in public courts," said Schnider, referring to Ryan and his ex-wife, actress Jeri Ryan. "The openness of court files must be maintained, so that the public ... can be assured that there is no favoritism shown to the rich and powerful."

MORE

In 1991, a court also sealed a complaint amending the Kerry-Thorne divorce, concerning economic and child visitation issues, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

In her 1996 book, "Change of Heart," Thorne said that playing the role of wife to the rising political star had made her so depressed she wanted to kill herself.

Thorne said she still associates politics "only with anger, fear, and loneliness."

She wrote "A Change Of Heart" to help other unhappily married couples; in the book, she called her relationship with Kerry a "suffocating marriage."

Developing...

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Filed By Matt Drudge
Reports are moved when circumstances warrant
http://www.drudgereport.com for updates
(c)DRUDGE REPORT 2004
Not for reproduction without permission of the author


http://www.drudgereport.com/kerryt.htm

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I don't know what Kerry's opinion was wit this Chicagoan... But this one is true: opening the divorce files to the public is right down in the gutter. And I'm actually surprised it is legal.

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@Last Conformist: I think people that care about such trivial things need to get a life

That's what makes them different from Apolytoners.

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There's Drudge stirring up the ****. Fun bit of political theater.

A majority of the politicians in this town have been divorced. This looks like just the first of the secondary explosions from this Ryan deal.

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Life's a ***** when you're a politician.


...and what goes around may very well come around...



How is this "coming around?" Kerry never weighed in on the Ryan issue. In fact, none of the Democrats did--Obama kept quiet on it. It was the GOP who raised a stink over it and who pressured Ryan out of the race. So it should come around to them.

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that's because obama is a man of class.

he teaches class, too.

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Assuming knowledge of Ryan's political aspirations (and it seems clear this was the case), Ryan's divorce lawyer was incompetent.

Methinks the fact that Ryan was going to get schooled by Obama may have greased the skids for Ryan's exit from the race. What I find interesting is that the Illinois GOP seems to welcome it. ("Gee that's, um, terrible and tragic. Yeah, that's the ticket!")

Given the content of the released documents, the idea that they were sealed "to protect my son" is certainly a pile of crapola.

Obama was smart enough to get his background issues (collegiate drug use!!) put behind him early. Ryan's way of playing his hand maximized the political downside. Another rich guy without political savvy. Loser.

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Ryan's way of playing his hand maximized the political downside.


I agree with this. This was not handled well. However, I think that his fellow Republicans implying that they were lied to by Ryan is a little much. They just didn't pursue it to see what the meat of the issue was and relied on Ryan's political judgment that it wasn't a candidacy killer.

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I'm just trying to picture this. So you pay your fee, or flash your membership card to get past the bouncer. Walk inside to a big room full of couches and pillows with like 40 people having sex all over the place, you take off your clothes and start giving it to the nearest woman?



I think it can run the gamut but I don't think its ever as easy as you can jump any woman you want. ( Consent is as big in a swing club as anywhere) First of all, from what I have read, single men are not allowed in most of these places. You have to bring a woman with you and likely go through a screening.

When I think of this I am usually thinking of "swingers" and apparently many of them are not into massive orgies and orgies don't go on at most of these clubs. The clubs are generally just a place to meet with similarly minded folks and arrange to get together. Some of the clubs might have private or not so private rooms.

Apparently the mass orgy is on the extreme for most people and the majority of people go to these places to find swapping aprtners and rarely, if ever, actually do anything much at the club itself.

 
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