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Drakan
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Málaga, Spain
Jun 2004 time: 06:37
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It's a strategy devised to catch up techwise, obtaining numerous techs in a short span of time through trading.
When I'm lagging way behind in the tech race at, say, Emperor level or above, I look at the Power Chart and trace a feable civilization with high culture (which probably means it will be ahead of me in tech).
I check it is at war at present with TWO or MORE civilizations and has five or less cities left to be annihilated.
I contact them, and strike a deal to exchange all the gpt they ask of me for as much techs as I can possibly afford (depending upon the cash I'm generating, I adjust the tech slide to zero before the deal, so as to make all the cash per turn available, the AI knows how much you make per turn).
Thus after about a couple of turns, the civ is wiped out and I have kept 5 techs or more at the least, aswell as all the money I do not end up paying because there is no one whom to pay it to. Plus I'm still honourable before the eyes of all civs because I stood true to my word and paid whilst they were alive (I do not have to declare any war to safe myself from paying what I owe them).
Regarding the reputation hit: no one has ever declared war on me for using this technique and I always make sure to keep the AI happy by means of signing ROP or giving them luxuries for free (very rarely, unless I am weakling militarily) or below the market price or simply by giving away a small amount of lump gold. I do this in the same turn the ailing civ gets wiped out so as to keep up my good reputation. I do not have problems regarding this issue. And as I say I continue doing it through out all the game until I catch up and then set the science bar to the max allowed by my Economy (even with a great loss per turn, e.g. 400 gpt, because I will have already made sure I had cash saved for this moment) and investigate a tech which I know the AI will not research (such as TOE). I pursue from this moment forth what is known as the Tech Broker Strat once I'm even in research with the tech leader.This technique (the Ailing Civ Strat, ACS ) is great for catching up techs in such a short span of time and at no cost really (well, almost). The point is getting all the techs you can within one single bargain, you can then trade them off with other civs and so on.
Regards to fellow civ sisters and brothers
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=91849
"If you fail to plan, you plan to fail"
Last edited by Drakan on 17-09-2004 at 16:20
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Aqualung71
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Lord Desolator of the Desolation Row, C3CDG
Oct 2002 time: 12:37
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quote: Originally posted by Drakann
The point being that I could still trade a second time even though my trading rep was hit.
I am pretty sure the other AI's will still trade with you after the ailing one has been eliminated. Just make sure that within the same and subsequent turns the ailing civ dissapears to give some gold or some lux to any civ who might seem annoyed at you because of it. They forget in the following turns. I have been doing it for a VERY long time Aqualung 71 and it has always worked fine. |
Perhaps my earlier post wasn't clear - you will still be able to trade with the AI, but because you have taken a rep hit (as with your German example), the AI will only trade lump sum/lump sum or gpt/gpt, but not lump sum/gpt. Meaning, you can buy tech for cash, or sell luxuries for gpt, but cannot buy tech for gpt or sell luxuries for cash.
Again as Solomwi pointed out, you are mixing up attitude with reputation. Giving the AI cash to improve their attitude towards you may prevent them declaring war on you, but it certainly won't repair a broken reputation 
One thing is clear though - if your AI trade partner has his capital taken during war, you will get a rep hit if the trade link is broken. This has been well documented elsewhere.
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Drakan
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Málaga, Spain
Jun 2004 time: 06:37
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BTW this strategy works even better when at the begining in C3C you choose the AI's civs to be more aggressive than usual. The frequent wars that will be unleashed will help you out all the more to pursue this strategy providing you survive and get along well with everyone by means of lux trading and/or ROP agreements.
Last edited by Drakan on 19-07-2004 at 18:59
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Dunnagan
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Cut it out and stop being an *******. Save that type of *****ing for the OTF. |
you must have been a bright kid.
oh and on the subject of OT forums, you might want to reply to the guy that called you 'stupid' in the ot forums, subject was texas testing.
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Dunnagan
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you must have been a bright kid.
oh and on the subject of OT forums, you might want to reply to the guy that called you 'stupid' in the OT forums, subject was texas testing.
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sorry for double post, hit the wrong key.
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