12-02-2001 21:08									#1
	I really enjoy this site. Got spare money?

Many posters seem to be getting cranky lately about some little attribute or non service here that upsets them. I sometimes have suggestions of what changes I might prefer, but I REALLY like the site. It is my favorite on the entire web. I enjoy the gamming rescoures, the community, and the forums. I am very grateful for it. I am also pleased that it is free, but it is VALUABLE and I would pay a fee for it. I know that the Admins & Mods have day jobs and that users here will not get the service they might exspect (but still probably not get) at a commercial site with a full time staff. I am pleased with the attention I do get, even the occaisional boundary warnings by Ming. If all the percieved injustices or perceived slow service that has been complained about in the 4 months I have been here had been placed on me, I WOULD STILL LIKE this site. I believe some posters here would benefit from an analysis of their expectations of this site, particulaly with respect to the known preferences of the owners.
Thank you MarkG & DanQ. I am very grateful for what you provide to me. If I had any IT skills I would volunteer them to assist you. I have money: if revenue ever becomes a problem, I would be pleased to participate in a voluntary fee program.
Thank you to the Moderaters, who do a unpleasant job, with uncommon good grace and humor.

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Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
Pontificator Pendanticus
older richer & wiser than you
Did I mention that I like spellcheckers?
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Lefty Scaevola (edited February 12, 2001).]</font>

	12-02-2001 21:37									#2
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola on 02-12-2001 11:08 AM</font>
but it is VALUABLE and I would pay a fee for it.

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DON'T give them such ideas.

	12-02-2001 21:41									#3
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Suckup!

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	12-02-2001 23:21									#4
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Ditto. You're the people we love to hate.
I'm sure when Lefty isn't cavorting in his vault full of money (a la` Scrooge McDuck) his frightening existence is indeed heightened by this place.
You may be keeping a true madman in check
Good work, Apolyton.


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	12-02-2001 23:41									#5
	Got spare money?

A really good moan is (almost) as great a pleasure as a really good cup of tea.

And sometimes folk moan about

1. things which matter to them;

2. things which, in their heart, they hold dear.

	13-02-2001 00:54									#6
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

In a way, we're really like the people who vote with their feet - the fact that we're still here (or have returned ) says a lot about the site's brilliance and addictive quality.

If we'd ever get really upset, we'd stop visiting for good. To my knowledge only ottok's ever done that and succeeded - and that wasn't even because of the admins or mods...

	13-02-2001 01:09									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

While I wish that was indeed the case...
Many people have left Apoltyon because of disagreements with the moderation style. And I'm sure people will leave in the future for the same reason.

No matter what moderation policy is used, people will disagree... even with the whole issue of having moderation in the first place.
Again... we try to do our best...

The site enjoys high levels of traffic at this point.
It has been increasing ever since the merger. So yes, they must be doing something right

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Ming
CivII & Off-Topic Forum Moderator
Ming@Apolyton.net

	13-02-2001 01:18									#8
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Ming,

In October 2000, right after the Area25/Spamgate event, many people said they would never come back to ACS, just like me. I had posted my Goodbye thread right before that event anyway, but now I was really pissed off. Over the weeks, I calmed down, and the addiction returned. Many people returned to Apolyton, although they had claimed they couldn't be arsed by this place anymore

Don't worry, those who are really leaving are just boring people

	13-02-2001 01:32									#9
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

I'll always express an opinion on a matter, I am a fairly strong willed character, but I am not a quitter. Despite some of the disagreements I have, I have still never threatened to leave this place (although I have thought about it for split seconds). I am not budging. Call me stubborn if you will

	13-02-2001 01:44									#10
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Provost Harrison on 02-12-2001 03:32 PM</font>
Call me stubborn if you will
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On that we can agree

I have no problem with people who question how things are done... I respect their right to disagree.
This forum is filled with threads on that subject.

However, the rules are the rules... And it is my job to enforce them as I see fit. If the Admin see fit to change the rules... that's fine too

So keep those letters and comments coming

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Ming
CivII & Off-Topic Forum Moderator
Ming@Apolyton.net

	13-02-2001 01:59									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

I'd like to nominate this thread for having the highest winky smiley/post ratio ever.

If we all keep bating Ming a little, I'll write Guiness first thing in the morning.

	13-02-2001 02:38									#12
	Suffering from ads?

We had threads with more winky smileys, Winston. Trust me on this one...

and on CGN, we had a thread where only I posted at least 100 LOL smileys... what a funny thread that was!

	13-02-2001 08:22									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

No, CW, that thread was not funny. It was merely annoying.

Anyway, I'm still addicted to this place. However, they'd better not even suggest charging a fee. While withdrawal might be painful, there are other sites out there.


Oh no, they've infected my post! I'ts contagious!

	13-02-2001 08:34									#14
	Support Apolyton

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Chaos Warrior on 02-12-2001 03:18 PM</font>
Ming,

In October 2000, right after the Area25/Spamgate event, many people said they would never come back to ACS, just like me. I had posted my Goodbye thread right before that event anyway, but now I was really pissed off. Over the weeks, I calmed down, and the addiction returned. Many people returned to Apolyton, although they had claimed they couldn't be arsed by this place anymore

Don't worry, those who are really leaving are just boring people


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Your posts don't make sense. http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum23/HTML/020013.html?17#10

	13-02-2001 14:07									#15
	Got spare money?

Don't think you can fool me for a second, Lefty! I know what your REAL plan is! You want this site to become a pay-for site because everyone knows leftists are always broke and you want to kick us all off this site! You wish to succeed where the newmaxians can only dream! But I, THEBEN, have uncovered your FIENDISH PLOT and now MarkG & DanQ will NEVER accede to your hideous demands! Right, Mark & Dan? Mark? Dan? uh....

	13-02-2001 15:52									#16
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

thanks for the kind words!

hopefully we wont have to make you pay to visit the site!
[insert hint about the clicked-based banners]

	13-02-2001 16:30									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Murgatroyd on 02-12-2001 10:22 PM</font>
No, CW, that thread was not funny. It was merely annoying.
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As I told you at CGN several times, no one forces you to read threads you don't like. Actually, the only one who was really annoying there was you, who always complained about things he just didn't have to care about...

...you tosser!

	13-02-2001 19:27									#18
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Theben on 02-13-2001 04:07 AM</font>
Don't think you can fool me for a second, Lefty! I know what your REAL plan is! You want this site to become a pay-for site because everyone knows leftists are always broke and you want to kick us all off this site! You wish to succeed where the newmaxians can only dream! But I, THEBEN, have uncovered your FIENDISH PLOT and now MarkG & DanQ will NEVER accede to your hideous demands! Right, Mark & Dan? Mark? Dan? uh....
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Too clever by half, mortal. The Illuminatti pyramid of retribution will vist you.

	13-02-2001 19:36									#19
	Get a bigger avatar today!

Speaking of per click adds, you that are looking for hard (and legal) copies of old games should check out the switchhouse banner (a sale swap matching service). When there go to browse-games-win95-strategy. Last time I looked they had dozens of copies of civ (civ1) as well as many versions of civ2. The have hard copies of hundreds of old games for sale/swap.

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Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
Pontificator Pendanticus
older richer & wiser than you
Did I mention that I like spellcheckers?
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Lefty Scaevola (edited February 13, 2001).]</font>

	14-02-2001 09:56									#20
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

<center><table width=80%><tr><td><font color=000080 face="Verdana" size=2><font size="1">quote:
<img src=/forums/"/images/blue1.gif" width=100% height=1>
</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola on 02-13-2001 09:27 AM</font>
Too clever by half, mortal. The Illuminatti pyramid of retribution will vist you.
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As long as it's the pyramid on the back of a certain type of currency. I will allow multiple visits.

	15-02-2001 08:32									#21
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

It's always nice to read an "administrative friendly" message now and again.

Thanks for the kind words, Lefty, and everyone else too.

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