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Snowflake is offline Snowflake
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falling, once again
Apr 2003
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Ok I know I'm kind of a noobie here. But still could I ask why Finns are evil?

Kassiopeia is offline Kassiopeia
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It all started here.

That thread has been viewed tens of thousands of times. The thread itself was more than enough to expose our true nature, but the real kicker was that the story spread like wildfire amongst the Finns on the web. I've seen it many times myself on emails and websites that don't even mention Apolyton, attributed often to "the porn star Ron Jeremy" as "Ron Jeremy" was Laz's nick at the time.

We had hordes of Finns registering for the next month or two, only to post a time or two and then disappear. It all added up to the story. Now it's common knowledge on Poly. There was a poll called "Apolyton Location Survey" in A/Community at the time and we regulars ushered the new people to vote there. You can see the results, we still outnumber the Americans.

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(or as my Finnish brethren would say: "Moi Mukulat!")


Välkommen.

Last edited by Kassiopeia on 05-07-2004 at 12:10

Kody is offline Kody
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If life's standing still and your soul's confused
Jun 2003
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Hi Snoddasmannen,

Welcome to the Spartans.

I'll be your CMN for the evening.

Andemagne is offline Andemagne
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Rovaniemi, Lappland, Finland
Dec 1999
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I'm here too, but not foor long. first I'm off to Rifle Range and then I take my Chiron Knights out for a recon mission. take care.


EDIT: CMN?

Dis is offline Dis
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now why is my civ icon not showing up? That makes me agnry.

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Aug 2001
time: 14:37
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Dis is offline Dis
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now my icon shows up. I like the spartan icon.

Kody is offline Kody
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Jun 2003
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Just curious if anyone wants to take over a spartan faction in a PBEM. Spartans are in 2nd place and it's turn 2127.

Googlie is offline Googlie
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Apr 1999
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I can do it (so long as it's not one I set up)

Kody is offline Kody
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Barinthus set it up.
http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...85&pagenumber=1

I'm kindof sleepy right now, and I've got things I need to do tomorrow. I'll fill you in later so you can get a running start. Anyway one of the players is away on vacation for another 4-5 days.

Snowflake is offline Snowflake
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Apr 2003
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Lady HongHu's heart is deemed to be broken once and again.

Googlie is offline Googlie
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Lady HongHu's heart is deemed to be broken once and again.


Aha - it's to replace Kody, I see

Well, I'll look upon my role as being a "caretaker Government" until he wants to resume again

G.

Jamski is offline Jamski
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* Jamski sighs and blames E_N*

-Jam

Snowflake is offline Snowflake
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Apr 2003
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Kody has Enigma to blame. Who do you have as your excuse?

Googlie is offline Googlie
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Kody - can I ask why you are pulling out?

Jamski is offline Jamski
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He's a good catholic

-Jam

Googlie is offline Googlie
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ROFLOL

(cf Rommel and the Camel)

Kody is offline Kody
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Trust Jamski to make me smile.

I'm just gathering evidence on Enigma, I recompiled Codicil without password protection and used it on the HoF PBEM.

GeneralTacticus is offline GeneralTacticus
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Huh? What did Enigma do?

Maniac is offline Maniac
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Have a look at the three threads Kody last posted in in the Multiplaying forum.

Anyway, mods, may I hope this means Enigma_Nova will be thrown out of the Angels and the ACDG3 in general? If you want, I could start a thread in the general forum asking/demanding this, so that people who are against E_N leaving can argue against me instead of start flame wars against you guys. Also what does Enigma_Nova's cheating in the ACDG3 involve? "Simply" some exploring in all directions with old turns, or more serious stuff like reloading and reloading to get mind worms in every square or getting better unity pod results?

Kody is offline Kody
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ACDG stuff is being handled by Drogue.

For the PBEMs....
Reloading to get mindworms,
Reloading to get pod pops,
Reloading to remove fungus bounce (high probability, there's a small chance he didn't),
Reloading to decrease unit damage in battles,
Reloading to explore (suspicion, can't confirm),
Rover Chassis from Probe retro-engineering,
Former reactivation after getting repeatively told it was illegal

GeneralTacticus is offline GeneralTacticus
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He did all that? How do we know?

Maniac is offline Maniac
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Do you mean he did those things in the PBEMs he is in, or also in these mere four turns of the ACDG?

In case of the latter, this really sucks. If it was somewhat later in the game, I guess it wouldn't make that much of a difference, but in the first few turns getting some energy credits, some better pod popping results etc can make a huge difference. And the Angels probably already got the best starting position (two CPs on a river I assume), so this would make things really unfair for the three other teams.

A restart would suck too. It would again waste lots of time, and personally I'm pretty happy with the pod popping results (the monoliths) we got until now. I would hate to lose those.

Anyway, if Enigma_Nova cheated in this ACDG3, I guess some ways to correct things without a restart could be:

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Reloading to get mindworms,


The Angels have to get rid of the credits E_N accumulated that way, eg by paying too much for a hurry order.

quote:
Reloading to get pod pops,


That's IMO the most damaging one for game balance and unfortunately also the most difficult one to correct, as it's hard to decide what's a "normal" pod pop result Imagine what one could do with some 75 credits or alien artifact pods this early in the game... I guess a solution would be that the Angels have to get rid of part of the things E_N got from the pods, or that the three other factions would be allowed to also pop, while using reloads, a certain number of unity pods equal to the number E_N already popped, to get whatever pod result they want. I'd hate a solution like this though.

quote:
Reloading to remove fungus bounce (high probability, there's a small chance he didn't),


Solution: The units that did this would have to skip two turns.

quote:
Reloading to decrease unit damage in battles,


Again skip a # of turns to simulate the time they would normally spend repairing the extra damage.

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Rover Chassis from Probe retro-engineering,


Simply not use rovers I guess.

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Do the Angels already have formers? Or did E_N not do this yet in the ACDG3?


Anyway, I guess a solution like this would really suck for all the other fair-playing Angels. For them I assume a restart would be best. If that happens, how about that the other factions have to reload until they get the same pod popping results as in the current game?

Kody is offline Kody
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He did those things in his PBEMs.

Maniac is offline Maniac
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Ah, I just reread your previous post and I see you already said this.

Kody is offline Kody
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No I edited my previous post. It was my mistake not yours.

Drogue is offline Drogue
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Anyway, mods, may I hope this means Enigma_Nova will be thrown out of the Angels and the ACDG3 in general?

If he's been cheating in the DG, yes. If not, no. If suspected, but not strongly enough to warrent complete expulsion, I will ask that he not play the turn, so as to limit anything he could do, while we decide if cheating in other PBEMs is enough reason to kick him out of all.

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If you want, I could start a thread in the general forum asking/demanding this, so that people who are against E_N leaving can argue against me instead of start flame wars against you guys. Also what does Enigma_Nova's cheating in the ACDG3 involve?

I'd rather you didn't. When we've finished investigating his turns, we'll post about it, but until then, I'd like nobody to jump to conclusions.

Googlie is offline Googlie
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As a matter of interest, was the Angels' "accidentally discovering" the location of The Hive an Enigma_Nova "accident"?

Kody is offline Kody
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No Drogue, Honghu and I are pretty sure that was a real mistake non-related to Enigma.

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As Kody says, it was not Enigma's mistake. I didn't want to give people more information, but almost every faction jumped to that conclusion, and it is incorrect.

 
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