27-06-2004 13:06									#1
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Does anyone else have the issue of Pressing F3 to see the military screen & next thing being on the MS Windows desktop? Its a pain, mainly if the last auto save was a couple of turns before!!

I am playing CivIII Conquests Version 1.22

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	27-06-2004 13:19									#2
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I haven't had that problem.

	27-06-2004 19:48									#3
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quote: Originally posted by MartynC Does anyone else have the issue of Pressing F3 to see the military screen & next thing being on the MS Windows desktop? Its a pain, mainly if the last auto save was a couple of turns before!! I am playing CivIII Conquests Version 1.22 thanks

do you get the pop up that asks to send an error report to microsoft?

I've had that a few time. I'll press F3, the hard drive will run for a few seconds, then that window comes up. I'll hit don't send, and then I'm back on the desktop.

I've been lucky with the auto saves lately.

And to think, I used to not use autosave feature

	27-06-2004 23:36									#4
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Yes, this happens to me very often. I now am in the habit of saving before pressing F3. I also try to go without looking at the military status screen unless necessary. I don't know what the exact bug is, but it has happened on every computer I've played Civ3 on since December 2001.

	27-06-2004 23:58									#5
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Curious, I've never experienced this.

	28-06-2004 01:27									#6
	Re: Re: Is this the F3 bug? or just one? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by Dissident do you get the pop up that asks to send an error report to microsoft? I've had that a few time. I'll press F3, the hard drive will run for a few seconds, then that window comes up. I'll hit don't send, and then I'm back on the desktop. I've been lucky with the auto saves lately. And to think, I used to not use autosave feature

I have never been asked for the MS Error Report popup screen in Civ III. At least the save & auto save functions work

	28-06-2004 07:23									#7
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I didn't get it in the game I just finished. So it's not often for me. Maybe once every other game at the most.

	28-06-2004 16:59									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident do you get the pop up that asks to send an error report to microsoft? I've had that a few time. I'll press F3, the hard drive will run for a few seconds, then that window comes up. I'll hit don't send, and then I'm back on the desktop.

Isn't the report thing new with XP? I don;t recall ever getting it with my 2K machines.

	28-06-2004 18:18									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Dauphin Curious, I've never experienced this.

	28-06-2004 21:47									#10
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Yes, the "Report this to Microsoft" is a feature of XP.

I kept wondering why the F3 bug was never fixed and then I realized that it doesn't affect a lot of people. Hits me all the time. I suspect it has something to do with how you play. Something in how I build my military creates a problem often when loading that advisor.

	28-06-2004 21:57									#11
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quote: Originally posted by MartynC Its a pain, mainly if the last auto save was a couple of turns before!!

The game executes an auto save at the beginning of each turn, in my experience.

	29-06-2004 04:32									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Purple The game executes an auto save at the beginning of each turn, in my experience.

it has in mine as well.

It was only recently I've been using autosave. It seems to save the last 5 turns or so.

	29-06-2004 10:07									#13
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AFAIK, the problem was found to have something to do with spies... until you planted a spy with a rival civ, you were fine. Once there is a spy planted, the game may crash - it happened to me many times, too.

Autosave on.

	30-06-2004 17:17									#14
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Using Microsoft Multimedia keyboard, does not happen to me. One possible thing to try is make sure you have the latest driver for your keyboard, assuming you can find one. This can be tough for generic keyboards. Try using a different keyboard also.

	30-06-2004 18:34									#15
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I don't think it's related to the keayboard you are using. However, I've never had that bug myself.

	01-07-2004 14:10									#16
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I've had this happen to me once, and that time I didn't have even espionage researched. Never had it happen so that I've scanned through all the advisors. I pressed F3 and the game crashed on me. I run Win ME. Autosave is the king.

	01-07-2004 22:04									#17
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And I do use F3 frequently. I use it and the unit tab to quickly find and upgrade units. I also use it to activate units so I can move them to cities with barracks to upgrade. I try not to let my spearment go into the modern age. Although I have had spearman until the industrial age .

Unless there is an easier way of doing this I don't know about. Is there?

	01-07-2004 22:30									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I try not to let my spearment go into the modern age.

Yeah, spearmint sucks!

	02-07-2004 08:29									#19
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Have spearmint here. Grows like weeds.

	02-07-2004 14:41									#20
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I always save before hitting F3, having been badly burned by the crash bug on many many occasions.

As someone said, it's a shame C3C will be remembered for being buggy and unfinished, while such a good job was done on 3.0 and PTW patches to get the game running really well.

	05-07-2004 02:30									#21
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Kinda weird, but when I first read this thread some days ago, I'd never seen the bug in question. Next day, it happened to me as well

Something for the conspiracy theorists?

This was early industrial btw so no spies anywhere.