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Originally posted by Asher
They all ****ing suck, I refuse to vote since I don't care which way they **** up my life. |
This is why I vote Green - they are the only ones with a new perspective. Voting for major parties just ensures we stay on the old-world merry-go-round where nothing really changes.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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quote:
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
So we're up to:
a) A religious dictatorship
b) A province full of poor, drunk fisherman that talk like ****ing retards |
0.1/10 on the troll meter ( I think I am pretty much the only "Newfie" on here.) But you score well in the threadjacking category and along with Tinkai, score 10 for 10 in both ignorance and idiocy
On the election, the voting station here is in a church hall with all the windows closed . With a forecast in the high 20s, it will be an oven in there.
But ASHER, voting is ALWAYS worthwhile . .. WHY?? because we can vote and there are billions who never have that opportunity. So VOTE.
Last edited by Flubber on 28-06-2004 at 19:12
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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quote:
Originally posted by General Ludd
I wasn't sure if this was sarcasm or not, but in case it isn't...
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It wasn't sarcasm. I think EVERYONE should vote*... I make the effort every time even if my riding will be a huge landslide . This is practice renders my vote largely irrelevant in that it changes no results but it is never irrelevant to exercise the right.
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* The term "vote" includes making the necessary effort to inform oneself to the degree necessary to make an intelligent choice. Even if you dislike ALL the choices, the candicates are never identical and interchangeable so there should always be one that qualifies as least offensive to you.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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Following up, someone like Asher is relatively well informed and would have some competing concerns in ascertaining who to vote for. It would atually be an interesting thought process since where exactly can a homosexual fiscal conservative park his vote??The NDP would be the opposite of Asher fiscally and he has railed against the Liberals so long and loud that I can't see a vote for them. That leaves the Conservatives, although their stand on homosexual issues isn't exactly designed to appeal to a gay voter. What matters more, overall fiscal beliefs OR do you vote on the single issue?
Also the candidates . .. I have voted for candidates when I disagreed with their party's views when I believed that candidate would provide strong representation.
There are a ton of things to assess so VOTE
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Jul 2002
time: 22:37
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Done and done.
And I mean DONE.
YOU GOIN' DOWN, LAURIE HAWN!
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Kontiki
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Canada
Aug 2001
time: 00:37
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Until recently, our main conservative party was called the "Progressive Conservatives". Have formed a number of governments, too, both nationally and provincially. In fact, in most provinces, they retain that name.
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Flubber
0.1/10 on the troll meter ( I think I am pretty much the only "Newfie" on here.) But you score well in the threadjacking category and along with Tinkai, score 10 for 10 in both ignorance and idiocy
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I figured those messages would flush you out of the woodwork. 
I'll second KH's last post. I have yet to meet an unfriendly Newfoundlander and the best looking women in my Master's programme were from the rock, which partially explains we ended up a cod as our class emblem.
As for Asher, I don't blame him for not voting. I can't see him voting for the anti-gay Conservatives. He sure the hell isn't about to vote for the Liberals and I haven't yet converted him to the NDP.
Don't know what I'd do if I was in his shoes.
Edit: But here's one idea. Write a letter to Harper and tell him why you didn't vote Conservative. One letter won't change their policies, but it has more impact then not doing anything.
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:37
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But as Election Canada is telling people: Don't eat your ballot!
"Eating a ballot, not returning it or otherwise destroying or defacing it constitutes a serious breach of the Canada Elections Act," Elections Canada warns on its website.
Three Alberta men were charged during the 2000 federal election with eating their paper ballots. The men said they were members of the Edible Ballot Society and were protesting against what they said was a lack of real choice among candidates.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Asher
They're all equally offensive to me in different ways.
Do I value having a good economy over having the right to legally marry?
Do I value having a potentially corrupt party over a party who claims to no longer be corrupt?
Either way it's a **** choice. And in the end, I couldn't care less which one gets elected. |
While I doubt they are all EQUALLY offensive to you ( and you haven't mentioned the particular candidates) thats your choice and your decision. The beauty of freedom to vote is also that you have freedom not to vote. My opinion that everyone should vote is just that, an opinion.
That said, if I were in Asher's position, I don't know how you could decide. Probably go for the best candidate irrespective of party stripe and then join the Consrvative party and try to change their views on homosexual marriage
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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Oh and asher-- who is the kitty "sniping' at ??
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:37
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Why not. There's an NDP candidate in Newfoundland who is anti-abortion. And according to the Star, he has a chance of winning.
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Flubber
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With a view of the Rockies
Aug 2000
time: 22:37
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I got a snippet of that from a web search but they want a credit card number ( no way !!) before I see the whole story.
An NDP win in a federal general election has never happened in NL IIRC. It was two separate byelection wins .. . But the party has never been stronger provincially -- TWO seats and with disaffection for the Librals and distrust of leadership in tradiditional Tory strongholds .. . well who knows??
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28-06-2004 11:59
to voting.
Only vote if you are informed, know what the party stands for, and agree with it.
-- Organize enough to take over an entire riding association and then run an openly gay candidate as a conservative. The party would explode and voters would be confused as they thought by definition, an openly gay candidate must be from the NDP
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