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lord of the mark is offline lord of the mark
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Maybe in 5 years I should run as an openly gay conservative candidate.


Read Andrew Sullivan?

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Who?

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US conservative gay pundit. Very clever guy, very good read. Used to be editor of New Republic. Check out his blog.http://www.andrewsullivan.com/

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There's no way in hell I'm going to offer support to a party that I disagree with, even if I disagree with it 'less' than other's running. What the hell kind of qualification is that for leading the country?



So you only vote for a person or party that you agree with on ALL the issues.? Thats a tough one-- I have views on dozens of issues and some matter to me more than others. So yes, I will often vote for the party I disagree with the least.

I think that any informed choice is better than making no choice at all.

Personally I have voted completely contrary to my personal fiscal views to support a strong candidate. I may have disagreed with his views but felt that the nation is all the better for having people with different views espousing them. Sometimes, regardless of party stripe, there are candidates that you know will make an impact.


I don't agree with much of NDP party policy but I would hate to see them disappear from the political spectrum. I see no harm, and much good in having the leftists railing against the centrist and centre-right policies most prevalent in our country.

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So you only vote for a person or party that you agree with on ALL the issues.?


I will only vote for a party that I can agree with, without cringing.

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Could some Canadians offer me a view on the central issues in these elections?

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Corruption, health care, military spending, child pornography, bilingualism, gun control, the Iraq war and ice cream.

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Corruption, health care, military spending, child pornography, bilingualism, gun control, the Iraq war and ice cream.


Which parties are pro-corruption, and who are against? Or am I missing some subtilties here .

Is Health Care really as bad as depicted in Les invasions barbaires


Oh, and I think that every child is entitled to the pornography it wants

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My vote is in.

That's worth at least 10 000 posts on OT.

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Which parties are pro-corruption, and who are against? Or am I missing some subtilties here .



The Liberals are pro-corruption.

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Corruption, health care, military spending, child pornography, bilingualism, gun control, the Iraq war and ice cream.


And ownership of Tim Horton's !!!

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And that's my last word on this until it's all over. I'm off to a poker game. When I get back and find out the results I'll be drunk and missing 20$. If that isn't fitting I don't know what is.

Here's to the honest, informed Canadian voters on all sides of this thing.

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The Liberals are pro-corruption.



or so their recent past would indicate .. . They certainly practiced enough corruption. But of course their new leader is claiming ignorance of all corruption and that his same old gang will somehow act completely differently with him at the helm

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Is Health Care really as bad as depicted in Les invasions barbaires


Naw... that's only in Quebec.

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Here's to the honest, informed Canadian voters on all sides of this thing.



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Go NDP.

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Holy ****, that was the most painful voting experience ever.

I drove past the polling station on the way home, so I thought "what the hell, I'll go vote", and so I did.

I showed them my drivers license and they registered me and all, then I went to my polling booth, and they told me I had already voted...

It said I did an "advance vote", where they supposedly sent me a ballot for some reason and I mailed it in sometime before last week. Um...no...

Well over an HOUR later, and the supervisor lady using MY cellphone minutes to talk to the Returning Office and eventually frickin' OTTAWA, they told me I had to take two oaths, one saying I'm a valid voter, and the other claiming someone impersonated me.

Then after I voted she told me that the government is looking into this, and if they find that someone impersonated me, they'll prosecute them, and if they find I've voted twice, they'll prosecute me.

Last time I ever vote.

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Rick Mercer's bit on "Get off your arse and vote"

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Holy ****, that was the most painful voting experience ever.

I drove past the polling station on the way home, so I thought "what the hell, I'll go vote", and so I did.

I showed them my drivers license and they registered me and all, then I went to my polling booth, and they told me I had already voted...

It said I did an "advance vote", where they supposedly sent me a ballot for some reason and I mailed it in sometime before last week. Um...no...

Well over an HOUR later, and the supervisor lady using MY cellphone minutes to talk to the Returning Office and eventually frickin' OTTAWA, they told me I had to take two oaths, one saying I'm a valid voter, and the other claiming someone impersonated me.

Then after I voted she told me that the government is looking into this, and if they find that someone impersonated me, they'll prosecute them, and if they find I've voted twice, they'll prosecute me.

Last time I ever vote.


They didn`t even ask me for ID!!! I presented them the card i got in the mail and they asked me what my name was: that`s it.

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I never got a card in the mail.

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I never got a card in the mail.


Not even in Calgary?

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Not even in Calgary?

I got one for Calgary, but I can't use it here...

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I got one for Calgary, but I can't use it here...


You would think they could have some type of central registry for all the guns ... i mean voters in this country.

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Well I had some fun .

My permanent residence is up north, so of course that's where my voter's card goes. Pointless for voting in Vancouver.

The riding where I currently live in all the candidates suck.

So I ended up grabbing the mail from where I used to live in Vancouver South, so that I could vote there, and I took the bus all the way over there.

When I get there I find out that I'm in the wrong polling station. I blame the software, since I'm right on the line between two of them.

So I have to walk all the way over to the other one, about half an hour, so that I can finally get registered and vote.

But it's done.

YOU'RE GOING DOWN, DOSANJH!

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They didn`t even ask me for ID!!! I presented them the card i got in the mail and they asked me what my name was: that`s it.


I'm not on the list yet, so I've got no card. And I have no 'proper' ID, either. So I'm going there with an old-school health card (no photo), a social security card, a debit card, a birth certificate, and a letter addressed to me by a government office.

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Thank you all for voting.

Asher - that should not have happened. I was a central poll supervisor (like the lady who used your cell phone). We had two similar problems - one elector allegedly had pre voted (like you) another allegedly transfered out of the riding. Each took me less 10 minutes to fix. Both were allowed to vote and yes we were busy at the time so their waits were not out of the ordinary...

Tomorrow I suggest you take your complaint to the Registration Officer in your riding. Phone 411 tomorrow - ask them for the phone number for the Elections Canada Office in your riding. (I keep saying do it tomorrow because the office will close in a day or two).

Tell him or her exactly what you said here. - you deserve an apology.

Even though you are a Conservative, they screwed up on there end. Next time a writ is dropped (an election is called) be proactive and make sure you are on the list before you go to vote. Since you may be living elsewhere in Canada, when the election is called phone 411 - ask them for the phone number for the Elections Canada Office in your riding. Since you are now in the system, they can transfer you between addresses anywhere in Canada over the phone.

I'm exhausted - once again use it or lose it - thank you for voting.

Jim C Bell - Uncle Sparky

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Thank you for helping us vote.

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I didn't vote Conservative. God no...

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I didn't vote Conservative. God no...


Well, give them a call tomorrow anyway. Someone was off their game if it took you an hour to get that straightened out.

Anyway... thanks for voting and with a minority government we may get to do it all again in the fall !!!

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Seconded, even if it was extrordinarily easy for me.

I went with the card at about 4pm. No line up. No hassles. They laughed when I asked if this was where we elected our pirates.

Although, I had to bribe some staff with time off just to get some of them to go and spoil a ballot if nothing else.

 
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