30-06-2004 14:51									#31
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So this is what happened to the all-day-transformers-watching kids.

I have to admit, though, that i'd like civ4 to step into the future a bit...

	30-06-2004 23:38									#32
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quote: There is talk in CFC about Giant death robots. We want to get rid of the 4 ages allready there and add new ones like steam,gas,atomic,fusion,anti matter, etc.

This is not civ- this is not even Call To Power- this is not even Alpha Centauri.

This is like Mechwarror- it's not civ in any manner.

quote: Is this forum even moderated? Much respect we'll get when the Firaxians come take a look...

Master Zen- I agree.

	30-06-2004 23:48									#33
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I disagree with the subject of this thread.


What Civ4 really needs is hippies. Lots and lots of hippies. There can be tree-hugging hippies, pot smoking hippies, hippies with hemp smocks, and hippies with dreadlocks.

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	30-06-2004 23:54									#34
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AND there should be FOUR Hippie ages!

Paleo-Hippy
Classic-Hippy
Gen-X-Hippy
Neo-Hippy

	01-07-2004 00:19									#35
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What about the Moose riders? Why do Camels and Horses get all of the attention?

Hmm, I don't recall any midget nations either...and they could ride wolves. Also, I was in the video store the other day and there was a movie for sale called "Ankle Biters." It was about Dwarf Vampires who find a legendary sword that will allow them to recreate extinct Shaq-sized vampires. This should really be in Civ4 as I am 99.9% sure it was a documentary, or at least based on a true story.

-Drachasor

	01-07-2004 11:52									#36
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Civ should start way earlier with dinosaurs.
In fact Firaxis should abandon civ entirely and start working on a game with dinosaurs

	01-07-2004 12:29									#37
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Hippy dinosaurs.

	01-07-2004 12:53									#38
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Giant Death Hippy Dinosaurs

	01-07-2004 13:14									#39
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DINOSUARS?!?!?!

FOOLS!!!!

Dinosaurs are made of weak weak flesh!

Do you want a lumbering ugly weak-ass piece of crap walking around with the brain the size of a walnut or do you want a smooth sleek strong and perhaps even superintelligent Giant Death Robot?

	01-07-2004 13:30									#40
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I'd take a lubering ugly weak-ass piece of crap walking around with the brain the size of a walnut over a Giant Death Robot any day.

Giant Death Robots are:
- Giant
- Death
- Robot

those three are three very good arguments against the sake of the Giant Death Robot.

	01-07-2004 15:07									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse Considering I've had a hymen in my avatar for over a year now, not really.

Ah, confession. Now you're dead Repent before it's too late.

You might as well have an uterus, too

	01-07-2004 23:01									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Ah, confession. Now you're dead Repent before it's too late. You might as well have an uterus, too

ACtually I mentioned the hymatar (made by Zylka, btw) in various threads before and no one really cared.

	03-07-2004 08:43									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Naokaukodem I admit this is a tempting idea... but it ain't realistic.

Actually... the Army is always looking into some form of giant death spider with mega-death rays. Has been since the late 40s and early 50s.

Of course, back then, they were hoping that the death rays (IR, then changed to Microwave) would be good quick death, but no luck.

Still, the Army is always looking into legged vehicles. For crossing a wider variety of terrain.

And Robotics/un-manned vehicles are already being used. Air Force is going full tilt into intelligent, armed, fighting drones. The Army and Navy are interested in catching up... send in remote piloted and fully autonomous robots to the places you expect to get the worst end of the stick, save that valuable trained brain for use later.

So, maybe not V-Tech/Macros death robots, but death dealing drones are hear already. And bigger and meaner things aren't far out... Next 5 to 25 years is going to be very interesting.

	03-07-2004 18:08									#44
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I was gonna mod the dinosaurs into the game with genetic engineering but I got bored and never bothered.

	03-07-2004 18:17									#45
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Why build a giant robot when you can launch its araments on an ICBM or field an army for a fraction of the cost?

Just get some scriptkiddie to disable a few of its legs and the thing will collapse under its own weight.

	03-07-2004 20:35									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova Why build a giant robot when you can launch its araments on an ICBM or field an army for a fraction of the cost? Just get some scriptkiddie to disable a few of its legs and the thing will collapse under its own weight.

Because when another Giant Death Robot catches your nuke and tosses it back at you, you'll need your own Giant Death Robot to catch it again. Against armies Giant Death Robots can step on the enemy and use their powerful cannons and weaponry to destroy vast amounts of the enemy in one pass --unless the enemy are Giant Death Robots! The puny weaponry of the average soldier cannot hurt the Giant Death Robot, and the Giant Death Robot is to fast and destructive for artillery to work. As for tanks, they are like the puny soldier when confronted with the might of the Giant Death Robot!

And scriptkiddies are useless against Giant Death Robots and their Giant Death programming language. The Giant Death Robot would just find the kiddie and either step on him (ouch!) or you could have a spy hunt him down and kill him. This is assuming the FIREWALL of the Giant Death Robot doesn't burn the script kiddie into a BIG pile of nothingness.

Why are you being so unrealistic about the utility and power of the Giant Death Robot?

-Drachasor

	03-07-2004 20:49									#47
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Why are you being so unrealistic in the first place?

	04-07-2004 00:28									#48
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There's a reason governments don't spend so much resources on a single big ass unit.

If you were dumb enough to field such a robot, I'd simply hit your supply centres and let your robot deteriourate from lack of supply.

Anything that big can't possibly be both well-armed and mobile.
Unit diversity will reign supreme.
Lighter units can move faster, and can carry more payload per weight than object requiring massive structure.

I could just have a 'Catcher Droid' that can fly up to the Nuke and return it,
a 'Nuke Launcher' that fires new nukes,
an 'Anti-Spy' that can stop your spy from getting to my hackers,
and against the threat of your robot stepping on anything, I'd just surround your robot - it can't step on everything at once.

	04-07-2004 01:20									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova There's a reason governments don't spend so much resources on a single big ass unit.

Yes, they lack vision! They are scared of the awesomeness of Gaint Death Robots!

quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova If you were dumb enough to field such a robot, I'd simply hit your supply centres and let your robot deteriourate from lack of supply.

A Giant Death Robot could simply steal oil from the enemy and convert that into an energy source; that with self-repair systems would handle deterioration.

quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova Anything that big can't possibly be both well-armed and mobile. Unit diversity will reign supreme. Lighter units can move faster, and can carry more payload per weight than object requiring massive structure.

Just like the governments you speak of, you are fearful of the grandeur of the Giant Death Robot! While Smaller Giant Death Robots can be faster than larger ones, they are easily a match for any non-Giant Death Robot anyone can produce!

quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova I could just have a 'Catcher Droid' that can fly up to the Nuke and return it,

The catcher droid of which you speak is just a diminishing term for a Giant Death Robot! Anything that was a Giant Death Robot would like the mobility, power, and capability of catching a nuke and throwing it back!

quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova a 'Nuke Launcher' that fires new nukes,

Which lacks the irony of returning the opponents own nuke, and costs you more resources.

quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova an 'Anti-Spy' that can stop your spy from getting to my hackers,

More spies I would use then. Your hacker would still have the problem of the Giant Death Robot's Firewall, which would burn your hacker to cinder! Plus, the Giant Death Robot undoubtable has friendly hackers on his side.

quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova and against the threat of your robot stepping on anything, I'd just surround your robot - it can't step on everything at once.

Step on, fire at with a multitude a weapons, and many other things are at a Giant Death Robot's disposal!

-Drachasor

PS.

quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master Why are you being so unrealistic in the first place?

Meanwhile within Nuclear Master....

Science Cell: Captain, we've detected a failure inside the brain, the damage is significant!

Captain Cell: Dangit, what part of the brain is it located in?

Science Cell: The humor center of the brain, sir.

Captain Cell: Scotty, is there anything you can do?

Engineer Cell: Aye, Captain, I kin jury-rig a humor system using the funny bone and nerves from the underside of his foot, but it'll take 20 hours.

Captain Cell: Make it 5!

Engineer Cell: I kinnae break the laws of physics!

	04-07-2004 01:22									#50
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Once it becomes economically feasable to build such a device you may have a point.
But until then I shall say good day to you, sir.

	04-07-2004 01:27									#51
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This is spammy. Reported to Ming.

	04-07-2004 01:27									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Enigma_Nova Once it becomes economically feasable to build such a device you may have a point. But until then I shall say good day to you, sir.

Umm, everyone understands that this thread is merely a joke, right?

I don't think anyone is being that serious here.....but apparently there is a sense of humor issue.

*sigh*

-Drachasor

	04-07-2004 01:49									#53
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Well, the thing is, the joke really isn't funny at all.

	04-07-2004 02:03									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master This is spammy. Reported to Ming.

Yes, I'm sorry about that.
Maybe we can discuss Tanks and Stealth bombers instead of "Giant Death Robots" in the next thread.

As for Humor, I am engineered to overpower and terminate my adversaries.
Humor is only a tool to use weak human emotions for victory.
...Who needs to be a Giant death robot?

	04-07-2004 11:29									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Drachasor Because when another Giant Death Robot catches your nuke and tosses it back at you, you'll need your own Giant Death Robot to catch it again.

Except that you don't catch a MIRV warhead with a "giant death robot."

They are having lots of problems trying to hit one, let alone catching it.

quote: Originally posted by Drachasor Against armies Giant Death Robots can step on the enemy and use their powerful cannons and weaponry to destroy vast amounts of the enemy in one pass --unless the enemy are Giant Death Robots!

Not necessarily. Suppose for each "giant death robots" you can field I can field 100 tanks with main guns capable of destroying your robots. Who would win the war?

quote: Originally posted by Drachasor The puny weaponry of the average soldier cannot hurt the Giant Death Robot, and the Giant Death Robot is to fast and destructive for artillery to work. As for tanks, they are like the puny soldier when confronted with the might of the Giant Death Robot!

That's your game. I am not playing it.

	04-07-2004 12:14									#56
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Every game should have Giant Death Robots, even stuff like The Sims. Or perhaps I should say especially stuff like The Sims.

I for one will feel a profound sense of betrayal if Giant Death Robots don't feature heavily in Civ4, with each civ preferably starting the game with one instead of a worker. I mean, what's the point in wasting you time trying to create on open-caste mine on a cow? It's just stupid to spend hundreds of years pounding on the poor things with pickaxes hoping to increase your civ's production? Where's the realism in that? Just give everyone a Giant Death Robot and let them should plasma beams at each other from long range, you wouldn't necessarily even have to waste time moving a square or foundin your capital.

I hope Soren reads this thread and starts taking some serious notes. The next time he posts us the slides from one of his industry presentations I hope it features the words "Giant Death Robot", "stomping metal damage" and "Plasma-Neutron MegaDeath" on every slide. He would be a fool not to, really.

	04-07-2004 16:14									#57
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet ... stuff like The Sims. ... stuff like The Sims.

* Enigma_Nova bashes you over the head with a windows manual
No Sims! Sims Bad! Civ good.

quote: Just give everyone a Giant Death Robot and let them should plasma beams at each other from long range, you wouldn't necessarily even have to waste time moving a square or foundin your capital.

One Must Fall: Battlegrounds is already copyrighted.
I don't think Firaxis can implement your idea.

	04-07-2004 16:18									#58
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FP,

You have convinced me. Lets go ahead with Giant Death Robots. The only problem is you can't call it Civ anymore.

	04-07-2004 16:52									#59
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Make it a wonder of Robotics that you can build a Giant Robot.
Gives --MORALE to the enemy, since even if the robot's not very useful, it sure as hell is BIG.

	04-07-2004 20:43									#60
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Make it that you can only build it if you play on April 1.