28-06-2004 12:15									#1
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There is talk in CFC about Giant death robots. We want to get rid of the 4 ages allready there and add new ones like steam,gas,atomic,fusion,anti matter, etc.

Human units will NOT be in the game it will be GDRs. Who need stupid troops and tanks and that junk when there are GDRs? There will be settlers and workers but thats it.

Each Nation will have UU GDRs. They will be better than other nations GDRs. I can't think of any of the UU but any way.

There will be alot of GDRs. There will be GDRs that fire nukes,lasers,gatting guns etc. You will also be able to make your own GDR.

Now you may be wondering how big will GDRs be. Well any where from 200 feet to 2 miles (in the late ages). And be able to walk on citys and destroy them.

I want NO flameing or spaming this thread!!!

	28-06-2004 18:52									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Highgeneral Each Nation will have UU GDRs. They will be better than other nations GDRs.

You can't make every civ have a UU that's better than all other units, if their UUs are included.

quote: Originally posted by Highgeneral I want NO flameing or spaming this thread!!!

And I want to rule the world! (OK, we all want to...)

	28-06-2004 19:22									#3
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	29-06-2004 03:20									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Max Sinister You can't make every civ have a UU that's better than all other units, if their UUs are included. And I want to rule the world! (OK, we all want to...)

Ok lets say the American UU delta-1000 and you have the normal UU that other civs build X-9000. American would be better than the normal unit.

	29-06-2004 03:49									#5
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I can see how you might feel it to be a bit odd, but it is only because Highgeneral did a poor job explaining it


Here's the CFC thread on it
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...?t=84982&page=1

And here's the first post

quote: Here's what I want, Giant Death Robots, I don't care what they have to do to get them into the game, but there must be giant death robots. And there must be a wide variety of giant death robots, there should be plasma cannon wielding giant death robots. Ones that just pound things with their giant metal fists. Oh, and you should differentiate between good robots and bad robots. Oh, and some of them should transform, like in autobots transformers. I really don't care if the "history" is accurate or if it's "realistic" I just want really big giant huge death robots. Oh, and the robots must have awesome names like "Mega-destructomator" or "Carnage-bot 7000." Now all of these giant death robots must be anthropomorphic, because that's the ONLY form for giant death robots (although they can transform into other shapes). Now, more about the specialized giant death robots: You'd have your chief megazord type robot, so huge it takes a whole team of power rangers to control it! They'd be mega-giant death robots that can take out cities merely by walking in close proximity to them! And they can disassemble to form a bunch of smaller (yet still giant) death robots. You'd also have transforming robots, because with transforming robots there's more than meets the eye, you'd have robots in disguise! They'd transform either into automobiles or giant animals. The giant animals could run really fast, but they'd have no weapons until they transformed into the anthropomorphic shape. The automobile ones could travel unseen into a city then from the inside lay down destruction on the grandest of scales! Also, there'd be ones that shoot out missiles from long range, and they'd be all cocky because they don't have to be directly involved in the battle, sort of a comic relief from all that awesomeness! Then there'd be these really slow really heavily armored fat robots, all the other robots will be laughing at it's mega-slow rate, but then when it finally gets close enough, it shoots out the biggest most powerful weapons in the game, then all the former laughing robots would be nothing more than a pile of molten scrap! Oh and there should be some robots that are specialized for deep-sea fighting, they'd walk on the ocean floor, and would fire torpedoes and can with stand pressures that would make the makers of the Alvin jealous! Oh and as your technology improves you could have better and better death robots. Perhaps you'd start out with a steam powered mega mechanical iron monster that shoots out cannons and stuff and their either driven by mustache twirling villains who enjoy chaining golden haired virgins to train tracks (that's also got to be included in the game), or cowboys (or perhaps outlaws). Later on you'd get gas powered ones that shoot out new fangled machine guns these are run by mad scientist types. After that you'd get nuclear powered ones powered by a transplanted brain that fire laser cannons. Then we'd get the fusion ones which shoot out superheated plasma and are run by a computer-brain, these have ion engines and can fly through space and battle other giant space robots, evil blobs that go arggh, or space pirates (Which will be a MAJOR component to the game). Then you'd get the antimatter powered ones that can turn invisible and teleport and travel in hyperspace and visit other worlds where you can battle giant alien death robots. Now you may be thinking "well, that's nice but how big would the giant robots be?" Well, I'd say they'd have to be about 200 feet tall or taller to begin with so that they can crush most buildings under their feet. It would get bigger and bigger as time progresses though and in the later eras you'd have robots that are easily 2 miles tall! Now these robots would have awesome battles with each other in beautiful rendering so that you can see the sheer hugeness and beauty of these metal (and later on plastic-composite) monsters. And, they'd have awesome phrases when the fight like "Prepare to eat 500 cubic meters of pure energy" and then the big huge cannon would fire and the amount of radiation that the computer screen would put out to show how blindingly bright it is would blind you and unless your wearing a protective lead suit permanently sterilize you (If you're male, females would just get breast cancer). Also included in the packaging should be giant artistic posters of the giant death robots in the game, and all of them would be saying their cool phrases that they say during the game, and they'd have awesome landscapes behind them of cities that they've pulverized with their giant fists, or landscapes of other planets, or in the event of the aforementioned deep sea robots a wreaked vessel of war, perhaps a destroyer, perhaps an aircraft carrier or perhaps even a nuclear submarine oozing out green radioactive goo! Also the manual would be filled with quotes from famous movie and TV giant death robots to help set the mood. Oh and all the songs should either be hard rock, techno, or one of those classical pieces with a whole lot of timpani parts, and they must be real loud. So loud that when you play it on anything less then stadium speakers parts would come flying off and damage everyting and everyone within a few feet! The music should give a pulse-pounding edge-of-the-seat feeling that will get you ready to fight your army of super-robots. This really gets to the core philosophy of Civilization, fighting on a massive scale, and gives it a whole new meaning. It would sell like hotcakes, especially if it smelled like hotcakes! Perhaps this is betraying Sid Meier's "vision" or some sort of "ideals" that you civilization folk have, but honestly the massive amount of sheer awesomeness associated with giant death robots will much more then enough to compensate for the differences.

	29-06-2004 04:03									#6
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quote: I can see how you might feel it to be a bit odd, but it is only because Highgeneral did a poor job explaining it

Go play robotech... oh, and read what MattH said again, slowly... Blatant troll, and I applaud you for it, especially the music selection.

	29-06-2004 04:42									#7
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MattH: hilarious!!!!

highgeneral, don't be discurraged by the reaction. one of my first post here (nearly 2800 posts ago), was something about troops autopillaging... needless to say that the reaction wasn't very welcoming
hang in here

but to your topic: a future era was already in discussion for civ3 but got ruled out. everything futuristic can only be guessed and presumed.

currently, the only future tech is "strategic missile defence". after that, it's just "future tech #1" (damn... havn't got that far for years! all games end way earlier!).

for giant death robots, you may like the "empire earth", where you start in the stone ages and grow right into the future ages. no UU robots, but nonetheless giant death robots

	29-06-2004 05:11									#8
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ok, now reading the CFC post, i notice you were actually joking... i'm a bit slow once again

	29-06-2004 06:31									#9
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Giant robots are cool and all, but due to them being too heavy, they aren't really practical.

	29-06-2004 07:24									#10
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Perfection i did do a poor job explaining it. But i called you here via pm so you could explain it better.

But now with the two biggest civ site knowing about GDRs there is a fighting chance to get it in civ4. Civ4 with out GSRs will be crap.

	29-06-2004 07:30									#11
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Well, both Civ sites know about Cow units, but the intellegent people also know they are ****ing stupid and shouldn't be in a game. It doesn't mean there is a fighting chance.

	29-06-2004 08:18									#12
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Nah, I don't feel like explaining it here, if they really want to understand it they'll read the CFC thread.

It's now the second largest idea thread in the forum!

	29-06-2004 08:34									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Perfection Nah, I don't feel like explaining it here, if they really want to understand it they'll read the CFC thread. It's now the second largest idea thread in the forum!

A good example of why most people from Sidgames went to Apolyton.

	29-06-2004 09:05									#14
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Hmm. In the late modern age, there could be power armor as a possibility. But if you want that kind of thing (futuristic crap) why not just make a mod?

	29-06-2004 09:29									#15
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Yes, this type of thing is best left being modded in. Or not, as the case may be.

	29-06-2004 10:35									#16
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quote: Originally posted by PresidentMarcos Hmm. In the late modern age, there could be power armor as a possibility. But if you want that kind of thing (futuristic crap) why not just make a mod?

Here are the age there shoud be. steam ,gas, Atomic, post-nuclear-halocaust, fusion, anti-matter, and the secret age beyond. Get rid of the stupid lame ages. add them!!

A mod pact huh? Ha you must be joking a mod pack . . I want cooler graphics, cool movies like when you build your UU GDR, cool sounds, ect.

	29-06-2004 10:39									#17
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FOOL!!! You really need a life!! Stop flameing newbies!!! You idiot!! You worthless PIG!!!

	29-06-2004 10:41									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Highgeneral St[art] flameing newbies!!!

	29-06-2004 10:42									#19
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Is this forum even moderated? Much respect we'll get when the Firaxians come take a look...

	29-06-2004 10:45									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen Is this forum even moderated? Much respect we'll get when the Firaxians come take a look...

Considering I've had a hymen in my avatar for over a year now, not really.

And there are Firaxians who know who I am anyway.

	29-06-2004 10:49									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen Is this forum even moderated? Much respect we'll get when the Firaxians come take a look...

Are you saying Giant death robots is a bad idea? HA!!! You make me laugh. We don't need the stupid lame game for badys. We need a game for real people. GDRs is a awsome idea GDRs is one of the top CFC threads!!! GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	29-06-2004 10:51									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Highgeneral Are you saying Giant death robots is a bad idea? HA!!! You make me laugh. We don't need the stupid lame game for badys. We need a game for real people. GDRs is a awsome idea GDRs is one of the top CFC threads!!! GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Master Zen's comments were towards me. He likes to troll.

	29-06-2004 10:55									#23
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Man, I don't care about Giant Death Robots.
I want Giant Living Robots

	29-06-2004 10:56									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Apocalypse I think Master Zen's comments were towards me. He likes to troll.

They were directed at HG which should have been more than obvious.

Sorry but I still don't consider you worthy enough to even troll. Grow up now. You are either arguing endlessly with me for no apparent reason other than not having anything better to do, increasing post count or some other reason which frankly baffles me.

Again, grow up and have a bit of civility before someone starts reporting these threads which are menat to DISCUSS CIV4, not insult or troll.

-MZ

	29-06-2004 11:00									#25
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I spend most of my time lurking, I could care less about post count. Some things are just too important to not have my input.

	29-06-2004 11:50									#26
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GDR != Civ.

Thanks.

	29-06-2004 13:00									#27
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	29-06-2004 13:04									#28
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Pherhaps Markos should make this form a standard reply option to a post. (only for plus-members of course)

	30-06-2004 01:12									#29
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Dear god...if only contraceptives were slightly cheaper.

	30-06-2004 14:34									#30
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I admit this is a tempting idea...

but it ain't realistic.