29-06-2004 20:52									#1
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Why isn't Apolyton using unicode as the default charset to use? Wouldn't that make sense, given the international scope of the site?

	29-06-2004 21:24									#2
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Given that people technically aren't allowed to use any language other than english, I'd say it makes sense to use the Western European encoding thing or whatever.

Besides, if you look at the source, they are using the following meta tag:

<meta NAME="language" CONTENT="en-us">

That explains the fact that the default encoding is not unicode, doesn't it?

	30-06-2004 00:19									#3
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No, because that's a metatag for search engines. They'd need to edit apache.

The reason I ask is because the people on Macs use unicode for everything, so when they use non-ASCII chars for like accented e's, they look screwed up by default on non-Macs.

Unicode makes more sense.

	30-06-2004 01:17									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Asher No, because that's a metatag for search engines.

Not really. In the absence of an explicit encoding tag, the browser chooses apropriate encding depending on the language setting.

	30-06-2004 01:41									#5
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quote: No, because that's a metatag for search engines. They'd need to edit apache.

You mean the templates, right? Not apache...

	30-06-2004 02:04									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Asher No, because that's a metatag for search engines. They'd need to edit apache. The reason I ask is because the people on Macs use unicode for everything, so when they use non-ASCII chars for like accented e's, they look screwed up by default on non-Macs. Unicode makes more sense.

Aah, I was wondering why Agathon's posts were filled with jumbled garbage.

	30-06-2004 03:22									#7
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That's not always just because of "unicode".

	30-06-2004 03:38									#8
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@Zop;

I think that's what Ixy was implying...

	30-06-2004 03:44									#9
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quote: Originally posted by vovan Not really. In the absence of an explicit encoding tag, the browser chooses apropriate encding depending on the language setting.

Which doesn't really matter, because each browser chooses differently (Safari chooses Unicode, IE/Firefox/Mozilla choose Western).

The proper solution is for the HTTP server to define the encoding to be used. Mismatch is bad.

	30-06-2004 08:23									#10
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay Aah, I was wondering why Agathon's posts were filled with jumbled garbage.

	01-07-2004 10:16									#11
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Or they could just use "http-equiv"...

	01-07-2004 11:58									#12
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For those of us totally clueless about what this all means - what WOULD it hypothetically mean to you or me typing away on Poly?

	02-07-2004 14:50									#13
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Nothing mostly, if you use English. It only matters if you want to use certain languages such as Greek or Chinese.

This encoding business tells the browser how certain sequences of bytes should be displayed.

	02-07-2004 14:53									#14
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This is a private site
If you want unicode you are free to setup your own site with as much unicode as you like

Nobody forces you to stay here.
There is no freedom of unicode-speech here. Live with it.

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	03-07-2004 13:24									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Asher No, because that's a metatag for search engines. They'd need to edit apache. The reason I ask is because the people on Macs use unicode for everything, so when they use non-ASCII chars for like accented e's, they look screwed up by default on non-Macs. Unicode makes more sense.

No, "people on macs" do not use unicode for everything AFAIK. I use it because I need to read accented Greek on other sites.

But I agree, unicode makes more sense.


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