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This is an estimate of what our continent will look like with 4 bases planted

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...3_Gaianland.bmp

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Could you please save the maps as JPG/JPEGs so that it has not need to be downloaded.

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Current Gaian Lands with possible movement routes and base sites: Western Empire

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Eastern Empire

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Plans for our Navy, including drop-offs for worms and probes:

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Landform and Native movement to catch the Ferry....Thanks to Net Warrior for the original image-idea of our landform:

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I think the Navy pictures show that we should concentrate on a road to the North, if/when possible. Further, it wouldn't be bad to build a probe team, perhaps after 9-12 bases are on the way to being established. Perhaps earlier.

Contacting Yang this early would produce Doc:Loyalty, or more likely, Applied Physics. The chance of him having a tech on beeline is close to nil. Zak, on the other hand....

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Perhaps it would be good to contact Yang whilst we are the weakest faction. If we can get a pact with him, or even a treaty, it might prevent him turning on us later....just a though.

Another concern is the AI selling our world map after contact. They seem to be able to do this on Transcend without trading for the map itself, so.....maybe we should be isolationist in regards to the centrally placed Yang. Je ne sais pas.

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I am against going for Yang - Yang will be destroyed later, as he borders all four human factions. We can easily defend from him if we secure the landbridge, and we can get techs from him later.
Smack - I do not remember that this happened in previous ACDG -perhaps you are wrong about map trading?

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I have been thinking, why is Zak rated as military strongest' Perhaps he popped a BO, and perhaps he explored Unity Wreckage and got Chopper + Mining Laser? Does someone have experience in that sort of things -> can getting this units increase your military rating?

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Yes, this is clearly from found units, most likely BOgre. Finding the Unity Chopper and Laser is usually not enough to improve a rating above a speedier military faction like Yang or Miriam, in my experience. This is great for us, b/c University will be loathe to trade with other factions while it thinks it's on top. Also, other AI will probably try to go after Uni. But of course, this will probably not last very long.

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Angels: population 7
SE: All basic settings?

Morgan: population 8
SE: FM and Wealth

Spartans: population 8
SE: Planned

Interesting for me, since I thought Angels will run FM. Also Morgan is obviously producing crawlers for secret projects since he reached IA.
BTW looking at your maps for MW drop off Smacksim, you do realise that we have a landbridge to the north for sure, and that ferrying units NE as your maps show is impossible for now? Until we make a base on northeast shores and produce a sea unit with Doc: Flex, we won't be able to go to the AIs or the other factions, but we can place MW directly to the middle of Yang area, cutting some time then with usual explore/pop routine.
To easily check this, set gamma correction to 2000000 or so and fully zoom out - you will see the landbridge.

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I wasn't aware of that. Well, we still want to ferry a MW north then to pester Shen-Gi. If the landbridge is a tile wide, let's consider building a base there to allow our navy a Canal.

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Yes, but ferrying MW is relatively quicker than exploration to thenorth, and can possible get us to the north leaving way to the east to pester the whatever faction it is. It isn't quite clear about thickness of landbridge, but all three other human factions seems to be connected via landbridges.

I was thinking, if we could divert a unit in future perhaps to travel to the east, meeting Zak/Lal depending who from them is the bottom one. Perhaps it would be best to explore north and areas with Yang, but if we capture a native unit it should go to the east.

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I was planning to move the spore launcher east, but the consensus was that we needed it to defend against the native mind worms to the north. We can put it back on its original path now.

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We should think about that. I support it .

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As you probably already know, probe team infiltrated Hive networks near the end of last year (MY 2143) providing us with great deal of information. Sadly, they paid with their lives but their sacrifice shall not be forgotten.
Let's concentrate on military:
Hive has a Laser Foil, 7 Laser Infantry divisions and three recon rover divisions, which is less than we expected. It also doesn't seem that Yang prototyped Impact Weapons yet:

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Here is the unit strenght count:

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Tech report: Hive produces 47 lab points per turn (30 more than us ). And will complete Optical Computers in MY 2146.
He has Nonlinear Mathematics, Doctrine: Loyalty, Social Psych, Polymorphic Software, Doctrine: Flexibility and Progenitor Psych (and all our techs). There is one 1/3 chance that we can probe a useful tech in couple of turns - if we could get Social Psych it would be great, as would be Flexibility.

Diplo report:

Morgans- noncommital-informal truce
Angels-obstinate-informal truce
Spartans-obstinate-treaty
Zak-truce


Has 15 bases (two of level 5 population). Overall looking majority of Hive bases is producing Rec Commons, some of them Recycling Tanks Energy Banks and NNs, two of them are building CN (the Hive will finish it in ten turns, other base in 15). Interesting fact is that Yang has two bases without garrisons- one of them, Labor Network, looks like it is near landbridge with Angels, thus close to our MW!

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The bases without garrison are not perhaps as easy meal as they seem, they could be located near bases with major troop concentrations or they could be sort of "honey pots" used to invite us to a war the AI calculates it can win.

Thus, what I think we need are probe teams to gain their technologies and lots of CPs as well as defensive troops near the in our cities neighbouring the Hive terrotories.

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