10-07-2004 22:21									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Dimytes Pollution ON Wonders ON Bloodlust OFF Ruins ON Barbarians ON (Free slaves for my cities) Map size GIGANTIC Donut world Trade goods MAX Rest of map settings 50/50 (or what ever the majority thinks) I would like to include 4 DEITY AI NO growth messages or I'll explode and spread the acid from my stomach all over the world... ©Dimytes 2004

NO AI!

This is an all-human game

	10-07-2004 22:25									#32
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Math accpeted me to join since there where none else intersted in the 2nd OFT.

And about turn rate.... once in 9 months I have not been able to reply to turns every day. It took 2 days that single time. I doubt it will be a big problem.
I know I will be travelling a few times after my vacation but math can just do my turns those few days.


©Dimytes 2004

	10-07-2004 22:29									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Dimytes Math accpeted me to join since there where none else intersted in the 2nd OFT. And about turn rate.... once in 9 months I have not been able to reply to turns every day. It took 2 days that single time. I doubt it will be a big problem. I know I will be travelling a few times after my vacation but math can just do my turns those few days. ©Dimytes 2004

Its kewl with me this will be 5 pl;ayers then.

I hope this stas person plays fast..I know me and EPW are playing a fast game right now..

soo..hopefully Monday we can nail a start!

Ok

Peace

Gramps..


P S

Please play our games turn!!

	11-07-2004 00:19									#34
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Gigantic World ok
Donut ok
Deity ok
Restless Tribes ok may be Raging Horres?
Ruins On and allowed ok
Pollution On ok if not - the game too easy
Bloodlust Off off if it`s posible

Land 30% ok
Diversity 100% 60-80%
Good Count 100% ok many goods? 50-60% better, because the game so fast
Other Sliders at 50%

about Farm/Mine under City - NO if posible, because not interesting

Name: Stas
Nation: let it be Japanes

	11-07-2004 00:30									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Stas Gigantic World ok Donut ok Deity ok Restless Tribes ok may be Raging Horres? Ruins On and allowed ok Pollution On ok if not - the game too easy Bloodlust Off off if it`s posible Land 30% ok Diversity 100% 60-80% Good Count 100% ok many goods? 50-60% better, because the game so fast Other Sliders at 50% about Farm/Mine under City - NO if posible, because not interesting

I'll be EPW of the Persians if it hasn't been taken.

	11-07-2004 02:22									#36
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I'll play Dimytes of the Vikings

©Dimytes 2004

	11-07-2004 18:15									#37
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im counting 4 people with Dimytes, Troll.

Dimytes, EPW, Troll, Stas

I am not playing myself.
Seems like the settings discussion is still going on. Do you want me to await a player consensus or rather make a final rule on monday ?
For Yes/No questions a majority decision seems to be fine. As for the percentages i hope you can agree on something.

and if you are wondering that im posting on sunday... im not at my home PC

	11-07-2004 18:17									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician im counting 4 people with Dimytes, Troll. Dimytes, EPW, Troll, Stas I am not playing myself. Seems like the settings discussion is still going on. Do you want me to await a player consensus or rather make a final rule on monday ? For Yes/No questions a majority decision seems to be fine. As for the percentages i hope you can agree on something. and if you are wondering that im posting on sunday... im not at my home PC

Ok..I was thinking.."Hmm..we have a sandbagger!! "

Ok..I would like NO POLLUTION other than that NO AI's and let the games begin

Peace

Gramps

	11-07-2004 19:39									#39
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nice new picture you have, troll.

	12-07-2004 01:35									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician nice new picture you have, troll.

Being a PLUS Member and having my Grandson growing, he takes my heart and makes it shine..Ill post a new one soon of my son whom is a SWAT Memner of our local Sherriffs Office.

Peace

Grandpa "Da Proud" Troll

	13-07-2004 01:12									#41
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Okay, i try to recompile...

In bold are those settings where i believe we can regard them as agreed on, either by consensus or clear majority.

In Italics is information on the voting behaviour of the players.

Underlined are the descriptions of the settings in question.

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Farm under city bug: OFF (disallowed) (consensus)

World Size: Gigantic (pro: Dimytes, Stas / contra: no one)

World Shape: Donut (pro: Dimytes, Stas / contra: no one)

Difficulty: Deity (pro: Dimytes, Stas / contra: no one)

Barbarian Threat: unclear (ON: Dimytes, Stas / OFF: Troll, EPW)
I suggest to go for one of the two lower settings or maybe the lowest (off).

Ruins: ON (and okay) (ON: Dimytes, Stas / OFF: no one)

Bloodlust: OFF (OFF: Dimytes, Stas, EPW / ON: Troll)

Pollution: unclear (ON: Dimytes, Stas / OFF: EPW, Troll)
I suggest pollution ON, for mere realism. But maybe someone wants to do Troll a favor and change his vote.

AIs: unclear (none: Troll / any: Dimytes)
I suggest no AIs.
With 4 human players it simply is not necessary and it takes away a bit of the challenge i think. Those AIs are sooo easy to manipulate...

Land Ratio: 30% (no major objections)

Diversity: we got 60%-80% (Stas) and 50% (Dimytes) ... meet at 70% ?

Goods Count: we got 50%-60% (Stas) and 100% (Dimytes) ... meet at 80% ?

Wet/Dry: 50% (no objections)

Warm/Cold: 50% (no objections)

Island/Continent: 50% (no objections)

Pillaging, Piracy, Wonders: all ON (no objections)

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Did i forget anything ?
Did i get something wrong ?
Does someone want to change his vote ?

Does anyone strongly disagree with the solutions i suggested in the non-agreed settings ? After 48 hours or if everyone agrees, i will use my default suggestions in any non-agreed field and start the game. Until then, discuss !

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As for technology picks:
Yes, it is secretely chosen, within the first 5 turns of the game, as in edition #1 if no one objects wildly.

As for growth and bombard messages:
Each player configures them separately, no need for a vote.

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Last edited by Mathemagician on 13-07-2004 at 01:27

	13-07-2004 01:25									#42
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Players, Civilisations, Leaders, Email addresses:

(NOT final play order !)

1.) Dimytes, Sir Dimytes of the Vikings (I assume ?)
2.) Troll, Trollius Augustus of the Romans
3.) EPW, EPW of the Persians
4.) Stas, Stas of the Japanese

Correct ?

Moderator: Mathemagician

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Turn enforcement:

24 hours until resend
24 more hours until nexting
(plus any time i need to realize that either one is due; which hopefully won't be that long... )

	13-07-2004 01:32									#43
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Looks good.

I'm okay with pollution on.

Barbarians on the second lowest level is okay.

	13-07-2004 01:38									#44
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I note that as a change of vote. So pollution will be ON, unless Troll threatens with suicide.

Barbarian Threat still unclear. (I guess we have one vote for each setting now )

	13-07-2004 04:58									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician I note that as a change of vote. So pollution will be ON, unless Troll threatens with suicide. Barbarian Threat still unclear. (I guess we have one vote for each setting now )

ok pollution on but barbs off please

look i caved on pollution surely you can help me wth barbs?

	13-07-2004 15:11									#46
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C'mon, speed up your responses... i want to start.
Please either contradict or confirm.

Any complaints about :

No Barbs ?
No AIs ?
70% Diversity ?
80% Good Count ?

	13-07-2004 16:01									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician C'mon, speed up your responses... i want to start. Please either contradict or confirm. Any complaints about : No Barbs ? No AIs ? 70% Diversity ? 80% Good Count ?

Lets rock on with these settings..Im ok ifin all others are?

BTW me and EPW are very fast turn senders and heartbreakers..


well maybe not HEARTBREAKERS..

GT

	13-07-2004 16:19									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician C'mon, speed up your responses... i want to start. Please either contradict or confirm. Any complaints about : No Barbs ? No AIs ? 70% Diversity ? 80% Good Count ?

All fine with me then, I've got my pollution =)

©2004 Doimytes

	13-07-2004 16:23									#49
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One thing, does the first player set up the game or do you do it M?
Incase you start the game and I will be first player I don't want you to build my firsty city, just next me the first turn. I move my settler one squre quite often the first turn in order to get the optimal terrain for my city square.

©2004 Dimytes

	13-07-2004 16:52									#50
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dont worry, Dimytes. i will start the game, but i will send the first player a regular save file rather than a PBEM move.
or maybe, if i rename the regular save file to .csg it can be opened as a PBEM turn, so no discomfort for any player.

	14-07-2004 00:42									#51
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Stas, EPW ?
Do i get your okay or veto ?

	14-07-2004 02:24									#52
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okay

	14-07-2004 02:28									#53
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one more okay and we're set !

	14-07-2004 03:44									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician one more okay and we're set !

ahem

I do hope he posts soon..and then we may get under way!!

	14-07-2004 03:47									#55
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well, i said 48 hours otherwise. so that would be tomorrow night.

	14-07-2004 03:52									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician well, i said 48 hours otherwise. so that would be tomorrow night.

and we have -5- turns to decide upon the tech we want..

I want the "I-dun-die-'cause-ahm-Ah-dumb@$$- advance"

I mean..im one sorry stack of dog dung!



I fricking took the Jack Kervorkian how-to-get-ahead in the world series..

I should have done more research instead of taking his advice!!

	14-07-2004 20:00									#57
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Play order:

Provided i got the countries correct, this is the semi-randomized play order for this game.
("Semi" because i wanted to put both europeans and both americans in a row respectively to maximize turn flow.)

1.) Stas (Ukraine), Stas of the Japanese
2.) Dimytes (Sweden), Sir Dimytes of the Vikings
3.) EPW (USA), EPW of the Persians
4.) Troll (USA), Trollius Augustus of the Romans

Moderator: Mathemagician (Germany)

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Starting positions wont be influenced much by turn order as i will manually even them out in cheat mode before the game starts, like Hatschy did in OFT #1.
I will then save the so modified first turn, rename it to ".csg" and mail it to Stas who can open it with a double click as usual.

Unless Stas replies to my posted settings earlier, these settings will become official at 21:12 (Apo time, GMT) today and i will set up the game soon after.

Last edited by Mathemagician on 14-07-2004 at 20:07

	15-07-2004 01:36									#58
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No further vetos received.

Turn 0 is off to Stas.
Please don't miss your first turn, oh quiet one.

	15-07-2004 01:57									#59
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Settings summarized in post 2 of this thread !

And I don't need to remind you to CC every turn to me, do I ?

	15-07-2004 02:45									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician Settings summarized in post 2 of this thread ! And I don't need to remind you to CC every turn to me, do I ?

Huh?