30-06-2004 04:40									#1
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Is this a good design:

Ion Drives class 3 shields
Zortium Armor Positronic Computers

2 Hv Plasma Cannons
1 pd Phasor

Achiles Targeting Unit
Battle Pods
Heavy Armor
Battlescanner
inertial Stabilizer

	04-07-2004 06:40									#2
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Im, curious: Is one PD Phasor really effective? Wont more,cheaper PD Beams be a better bang/buck ?

	04-07-2004 07:53									#3
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It will certainly work. I would be inclined to drop the targeting unit and use that space for weapons.

I would use Phasors instead to get more weapons and leave a bit of space to get the extra combat speed, if it did not mean giving up a primary gun.

Since you have HA and Hulls, what are the weapons being used aginst you? I would use HA if no bypass armor stuff was used, else go with Hulls for the triple structure.

	04-07-2004 10:39									#4
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I dont have the reinforced hull on this design.

	04-07-2004 10:39									#5
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the ai doesn't use ATUs so we don't have to worry about armor piercing attacks.

	04-07-2004 10:41									#6
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the phasor is 5 space, there is no real pd weapon we have at this point that are smaller/more effective, its purely cosmetic(except that it will down 1 fighter/missile per turn). maybe pd af mass drivers.

	04-07-2004 11:06									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Whoha I dont have the reinforced hull on this design.

Of course you don't have them on the ship, I meant avilable to use either. As in you have both techs.

	04-07-2004 11:11									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Whoha the ai doesn't use ATUs so we don't have to worry about armor piercing attacks.

There are a number of weapons and mods that will bypass armor, such as Ion Pulse Cannons. The AI will use these and AP mods.

Anyway it was just a consideration, not a recommendation. IOW covering the bases.

	04-07-2004 19:58									#9
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ap doesnt bypass heavy armor, and ion pulse cannons are covered by shields(I think they bypass the hull as well and go straight to structure).

	05-07-2004 12:53									#10
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Te only weapons that can bypass the heavy armor partially are the gyro destabilizers and graviton beams. They do some structural damage regardless of the armor ...

For the current stage of the game the above design is ok in spite of its inability to handle lots of missiles. We can add a special PD ship in an attacking fleet if we need so.

	06-07-2004 08:13									#11
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Whoever voted no please post a better ship design..