10-02-2001 14:45									#1
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www.europa-universalis.com

As you've probably noticed there have been a lot of activity on the various EU threads. I was wondering if perhaps a forum for it under the "Alt. Civs/Other Civs" heading could be started.

It definetly is an Alternate Civ when you look at it. It is basically what some of us have asked for Civ. A certain time period with heavily detailed trade and diplomacy.

Just a suggestion...

	10-02-2001 15:37									#2
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I agree. Sadly I myself can't play the game yet since the mac version isn't ready for use yet.

	10-02-2001 16:09									#3
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Good idea Imran. From what I've heard of this game I'll be spending a heck of alot of time playing it.

When does it hit the US btw? Anyone know?

	10-02-2001 16:30									#4
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Yes that a very good idea.Europa is a great game

	10-02-2001 21:33									#5
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Why bother asking for one here when you can just come to CGN and post in the Europa Universalis forum that's already there?

	11-02-2001 02:04									#6
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Well, the game isn't out yet (though I have it preordered!), but I'd have to agree, an EU forum would be nice. But since there's a forum over at Europa-Universalis.com which is much more frequently traveled than, say, reismark's CGN link, I wouldn't call it a neccesitiy (since most likely I would post at the "real" EU forum first).

	11-02-2001 11:11									#7
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There are no plans to add a Europa Universalis forum to the Apolyton lineup of forums at this time now or in the near future.

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	11-02-2001 19:40									#8
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If Apolyton's theme is on Civ-like games, why not have a Europa Universalis (EU) section?
If the company developing EU has a forum for its own game, Apolyton can have a link to there. Up to this moment, I treat Apolyton as a portal to all kinds of Civ-like games. EU (I do not have it yet) seems a lot like Civilization (compared with Dinosaurs :P ) So why not?

As an aside, IMO, dinosaur really should not be in Apolyton. Colonization or Master of Magic fits much better to the Civ theme than Dino.

	12-02-2001 08:11									#9
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its sad.No europa no banners kicking from me.

	12-02-2001 08:40									#10
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Like Reismark said, CGN has a new EU forum.

As a side note to Chow Yun Fat: we also have a Colonization forum and an attempt to make a Col2



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	12-02-2001 16:15									#11
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So instead of staying at one site and getting all my information about the games I like, I have to travel to different sites all over the net.

I have known about CGN but until now had no reason to go there. I just registered at CGN.

	14-02-2001 05:19									#12
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This one has my vote too. I can't wait for the release of the A/P version (or for any version that ends up in A/P ). US release in a week or so, so hopefully we won't be too far behind.

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Dan, I trust that you/Mark are amenable to changing your minds about an EU forum should this game become anywhere near as popular as it could be?

	14-02-2001 09:29									#13
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Seems it would be easier to post at the official forums with people who've actually played the game.

	15-02-2001 03:45									#14
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I don't know, guys. This seems like a period game, not a sweeping, multimillenial epic (please correct me if I'm wrong). So EU would fit the same profile as Colonization. Too focused for Apolyton.

	15-02-2001 04:16									#15
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If I were you I would discuss about the EU experience in the Other games section, until it got cluttered and Mark&Dan were forced to open a section about it. It isn't that hard, specially in the Alt.Civs. Section. Any game getting continuously more than 20 posts a day deserves it's own section.

However you must realise that EU is not the only historical TBS game out there. If Apolyton was covering all games of this sort, it should cover Imperialism I & II f.e. and many other games.

Btw I just bought Heroes of Might and Magic III & Armageddon's Blade expansion pack really cheap and it's GORGEOUS! I love fantasy, I love TBS, I love this game!
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	15-02-2001 04:52									#16
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first of all, we prefer covering fewer games in the best way than more games in the worst way and in some of the games we cover we have a lot of stuff to do before doing it in the best way

second, in the great majority of occassions we create forum when there is already a need. an example: we created a ctp2-creation forum expecting discussion on the topic. the traffic was so much we decided to split it in three. so talk all you want about EU in the other games forums(that's why we've created it) and if the traffic justifies it....
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	15-02-2001 06:56									#17
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MarkG sez: "so talk all you want about EU in the other games forums(that's why we've created it) and if the traffic justifies it...."

OK, but that may never happen. CGN already has an EU forum, so people may just go there. At least some of the posts here express a desire for a forum here so more "furuming" needs are met by one site, rather than multiple.

John-SJ

	15-02-2001 12:15									#18
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OK, but that may never happen. CGN already has an EU forum, so people may just go there. At least some of the posts here express a desire for a forum here so more "furuming" needs are met by one site, rather than multiple.

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That's pretty much what I said. So now I have to go all the way over to CGN to the EU forum.

By the way, welcome to CGN.

	16-02-2001 13:59									#19
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I'll take this as an open mind Mark.
If the people marketting/translating this do their job (and incidentally get me my game before I go mad ) then IMHO traffic well might justify it.

John-SJ
If apolyton (eventually) opens a forum, I'm guessing people will come back again. We just need to sp.. .. er, post vociferously and volumously in "Other Games" for a while.
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	16-02-2001 20:10									#20
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Well, if the traffic is there, say anything greater than 2 posts per week, then EU will be more active than the Dinosaurs forum.

Hey! That's an idea! Mark, can we just get the Dino forum renamed to Europa Uninversalis? The forum already exists, and it's all but unused, AND, it's even already in the Alternative Civs / Other Games section.

John-SJ

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	17-02-2001 06:08									#21
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Great idea, Imran!!

	17-02-2001 06:57									#22
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John, that's freaking BRILLIANT!

Can we rename the Dino's forum?

	17-02-2001 07:47									#23
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Ditto!

Now if only I could get the darned game already

	17-02-2001 13:58									#24
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the only EU thread in the other games forums did not have a post in the last two days. i fail to see how a eu forum would be more active than the dino forum....

	17-02-2001 15:34									#25
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Because we all happen to be posting elsewhere... I guess you had your shot, but our attention spans are too short

Look at the EU forum in CGN... already has a bunch of posts...

	17-02-2001 21:05									#26
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I'd guess that if there were an EU forum here that most users would gravitate here. But since there is a good forum elsewhere most will likely adjust to the minor inconvenience and go there to talk about EU.

Also, EU has not been released in an English language version yet. My guess is that when that happens there will be a lot more activity.

Looks like CGN is going to be collecting the ad click/page hit money on this one. Oh well...

John-SJ

	17-02-2001 21:25									#27
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Looks like CGN is going to be collecting the ad click/page hit money on this one. Oh well...
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	17-02-2001 21:46									#28
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LOL!

Mark, I have no problem going to another site for other game forums, but I have to admit, like some other posters here I would prefer the convenience of being able to do all of my foruming in one place.

Unless EU is a real bust (highly doubtful from what I hear) it's likely to be my "main game" for some time so I'll probably spend a fair amount of time on their forums. But I'll still need to come here for my MP AC games and Civ II succession game and maybe even a little OT ( ) so I'll be fairly evenly split between the two locations.

John-SJ

	18-02-2001 11:49									#29
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It can't be any worse than CTPII. Unless they tried to make it bad.

	18-02-2001 21:39									#30
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