30-06-2004 17:18									#1
	R.I.P. Sierra Tired of ads?

http://www.allowe.com/Larry/8news.htm - Look at the bottom of the page







I hope this has no influence on the upcoming Larry game...

	30-06-2004 17:34									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

well following some of the links about that story, it did say the name would live on in Half-life etc, but no mention of the Larry game

Vivendi......hmmm they the ones that did the 'hyped' Riddick game that offered a huge 12hrs approx of gameplay...........never rated them as a true gamers publishers anyway

	30-06-2004 18:00									#3
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

I've never heard the name Vivendi before... at least of what I remember)...

	30-06-2004 18:12									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Which might explain their predicamnet I know them for producing/publishing fairly poor games - mostly garish 3D games with little content beyond the visuals.

At least thats my impression of what their name means to me.

	30-06-2004 18:37									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Except that they owned Blizzard, and maybe even still do.

	30-06-2004 18:38									#6
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

But Blizzard haven't created any good games since Warcraft 2

	30-06-2004 19:03									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Vivendi Universal is a massive entertainment group worldwide, and the games branch can be found at: http://www.vugames.com/

	30-06-2004 21:39									#8
	Get a bigger avatar today!

quote: Originally posted by Adagio But Blizzard haven't created any good games since Warcraft 2

Idiots.

If you don't play MP you will *never* appreciate what Blizzard is to the gaming world.

	30-06-2004 21:45									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Ok, admitted... maybe they make good MP games... but at SP, they suck

	01-07-2004 02:39									#10
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Sierra bought out Impressions (makers of Caesar) and Dynamix (Makers of Willy Beamish/some other gmaes)

Then CDC bought them out.

then a French Sewage company bought them out.

Then vivendi bought Blizzard and a few other properties.

then vivendi bought Sierra from the French.

And that's how we get where we are today

	01-07-2004 02:52									#11
	Support Apolyton

Anyone hear anything about how this might affect plans for another No One Lives Forever game?

	01-07-2004 02:56									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

It seems as though the industry is starting to drift back from the "huge bloated game companies" part of the cycle towards the "small sink-or-swim game companies" part. Interplay's in trouble, Sierra's in trouble...

'Course, last I heard, Sony's making money hand over fist. I consider them to be far more console based than PC-based, though.

	01-07-2004 06:55									#13
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Sony isn't doing so well.

Sony profits

Although that's last years. This years due out soonish.

	01-07-2004 07:02									#14
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by Adagio But Blizzard haven't created any good games since Warcraft 2

Have you been living in a cave?

	01-07-2004 10:06									#15
	Put an end to popups!

He's wrong.

Blizzard games suck horribly in single player mode. And some suck no matter what.

	02-07-2004 06:43									#16
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

My lord, you HAVE all been living in a cave!

StarCraft and WarCraft III both have VERY enjoyable in single player campaigns. Playing mock-MP skirmishes against the AI is admittedly dull, but the SP *campaigns* are just incredibly fun and even compelling with their plotlines. I have to wonder what game you were playing.

As for Diablo II, I think it's rather dull myself, but I know a lot of people who would disagree with me on that one.

	02-07-2004 10:38									#17
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

quote: Originally posted by Arnelos Playing mock-MP skirmishes against the AI is admittedly dull, but the SP *campaigns* are just incredibly fun and even compelling with their plotlines. I have to wonder what game you were playing.

The SP "campaigns" of both of these games are horrible. All the scenarioes are "puzzle solving", meaning that you find the right way to approach the goal. There's very little strategy or tactics involved at all. The "civil war" type scenarioes are especially boring - they are just a big meat grinder.

By the way, I couldn't find any AI at all. It's just all scripts and triggers.

	02-07-2004 20:58									#18
	Tired of ads?

quote: The SP "campaigns" of both of these games are horrible. All the scenarioes are "puzzle solving", meaning that you find the right way to approach the goal. There's very little strategy or tactics involved at all. The "civil war" type scenarioes are especially boring - they are just a big meat grinder

Buy the strategy guide
-
That's honestly the only way I can bet any RTS game and it makes them all the more enjoyable when you know what to do and what to look forward to.
-
As for comp. game co.'s not making any money- it's getting absurd here- I see games released last year being sold for the equivalent of $20 or 15 euros. and this is at major retail outlets...

hardly any games seeem to be going for more than $40! (I still remember the days back in 1996 where games were going up to $60!)

and frankly, I just had someone give me a gift of Battle Realms (2001) for $3 and I purchased Airlines Two (2002) for $5 and could have purchased MOO III for $5 and several new games.


Heck, I purchased Empire Earth for $5 last year
-
How can you not realize that computer games are in a bad way- they just don't sell!

	03-07-2004 00:55									#19
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by Arnelos My lord, you HAVE all been living in a cave! StarCraft and WarCraft III both have VERY enjoyable in single player campaigns. Playing mock-MP skirmishes against the AI is admittedly dull, but the SP *campaigns* are just incredibly fun and even compelling with their plotlines. I have to wonder what game you were playing. As for Diablo II, I think it's rather dull myself, but I know a lot of people who would disagree with me on that one.

Quite!