05-07-2004 08:42									#1
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I'm planning on having all images load in the thread, with most of the pictures I take being 1024x768.

Would people prefer the larger ones to just be linked to rather than being shown directly in the thread?

	05-07-2004 09:31									#2
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I like it the way it is now.

	05-07-2004 10:32									#3
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You can always zoom out on the map to condense it somewhat (eg for the rover to The Hive map)

	05-07-2004 21:46									#4
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Being an unfortunate soul who does not own a copy of SMAX I greatly appreciate the maps, and I think they work very well so far. I would keep the inlined pictures, much more comfortable to view imo.

I can't for the life of me figure out why we keep changing colours though, from white to yellow to reddish-brown? I thought Spartans were supposed to be black?

	06-07-2004 02:16									#5
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Great work Skanky.

quote: Originally posted by Snoddasmannen I can't for the life of me figure out why we keep changing colours though, from white to yellow to reddish-brown? I thought Spartans were supposed to be black?

I don't know sure if this also is in the original SMAC, but normally if you open the Alpha Centauri.ini file in the main SMAC directory, you should see something like this:
Faction 1=GAIANS
Faction 2=HIVE
Faction 3=UNIV
Faction 4=ANGELS
Faction 5=MORGAN
Faction 6=SPARTANS
Faction 7=PEACE
This determines the faction graphics of the first, second... seventh faction in the turnplay order list. Problem is that this list doesn't update when you open a multiplayer game (like this ACDG), so you'll see the faction graphics of the last single player game you opened.

	06-07-2004 11:16									#6
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I've unlocked the map thread so that the turn player can add pictures in there for turns-in-progress, should they so wish.

	16-07-2004 06:35									#7
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*** Housekeeping ***

One of the things we should do is prune out-of-date maps and graphics from old posts to ensure faster loading of relevant pages (eg here)

	16-07-2004 09:47									#8
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I was thinking that all the maps would stay in that thread so people could see at a glance how our faction started out and how we got to where we are now turn-by-turn. If we want a single thread with the current map only in it, it would probably be best to have a new thread with just a single, continuously edited first post.

	16-07-2004 09:52									#9
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Hmm - good point.

I made the comment as when I was having some rig troubles, I found that thread took forever to load 'cos of all the graphics

But it would be a good historic record of how our faction grew, prospered and conquered all before it

Maybe 2 threads - a current map and base status thread and an archives of maps and bases thread? [the latter one also containing snapshots from time to time of some of the F2 screens - our military nexus, base production, population and garrison, etc (for team members who don't have smax)]

	16-07-2004 09:59									#10
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Every 10 years should be good for those F2 etc screenies. Although the thread may get unweildy with that many images in it so we will probably have to open a new map thread every 10 years.

I've got a Current Map thread so that people can see where we are at now without waiting for several megs of pictures to download.

A base status thread is also a very good idea. I'll give you the honour of starting that one.

	16-07-2004 16:17									#11
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And if you could replace those removed maps, that would be appreciated too.

	16-07-2004 18:39									#12
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Hmm - using the post edit feature, there's no way to hang an new attachment once the original has been removed, so I had to go the upload route

(I don't recall whether, when I modded ACDG2, I could edit someone's post to hang an attachment on it - I don't think I could - or even if I ever tried)

I'll start a n "Internal Intelligence" thread in 2110 for ten-year incremental upgrading

	16-07-2004 19:37									#13
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Yeah, I was presuming upload would be used for the current map. At least with the permanent Map Thread we can use attachments and save our valuable upload space for, well, whatever else we want to upload.

While on the subject, if people run out of upload space I'll be happy to upload Spartan pics for them using my upload space.

	19-07-2004 08:19									#14
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Yikes!!

Note that the nearest Hive (we presume) base is only 8 tiles away from Chiron Knights

Our border is 5 tiles south of Sparta Command (and we know that a border is equidistant from two bases), ergo there is another faction's base ten tiles from Sparta Command

We should get Rolling Thunder and Chiron Knights down there ASAP

	19-07-2004 08:27									#15
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Panic over - my mistake (territory never extends further than 7 tiles from a base. (edit; But why isn't our southern border then 7 tiles from Sparta Command?)

I still think we should send the 2 rovers south (together) ASAP

See:

quote: Originally posted by Maniac I read years ago in some civ2 manual that the game, when calculating distance (for corruption purposes etc), considers a diagonal connection between two tiles as having length 1,5. A straight distance between two tile counts as 1 of course. If this is still true, the border distance of 5 directly south of SC1 can be explained like this: 1,5 * 5 = 7,5 rounded down to 7. So it matches. Anyway, this way borders around a base more or less resemble a circle, instead of a square.

	21-07-2004 05:43									#16
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Hmm - I see the Chiron Knights podpop uncovered more fungus. (At least it's a barrier of a sort between us and the faction(s) to the south - unless one of them is the Gaians!!)

	28-07-2004 05:43									#17
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Our Current Map Thread isn't very current.

Who is Major Burns' commanding officer? A reprimend - maybe 100 push-ups - is in order

	28-07-2004 08:16									#18
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Tidied the Spartan Map thread up a bit.

The Current Map Thread should be edited by the current turn-player to show the latest map. Bear in mind that anyone in our private forums can edit anyone else's posts. While I don't mind updating the thread myself, it is much more efficient for the turn-player to do so as they have the game open and are taking screenshots anyway. Hell, I just linked to the image you posted in the Spartan Map thread.

	28-07-2004 08:25									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Bear in mind that anyone in our private forums can edit anyone else's posts.

LOL - sorry, I'd forgotten that

(But remember I was a Mod last game so it never occurred to me to check it out)

I'll do updates in future of any turns I play on M's behalf

	28-07-2004 09:49									#20
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No problems.

But I haven't been paying enough attention to this game, so as punishment I have filed a complete report on the Spartan Empire, 2110. State of the Empire, 2110
Phew, I don't want to have to do something like that too often. Good thing we only need to file it once every 10 years, it should be a while before I have to repeat the process

	28-07-2004 22:35									#21
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Hehehe, sorry to bother you, Skanky, but MY 2120 is up. Great work on the last one! Those screenies are a life saver for us non-SMAXers. Also, perhaps at this stage, it would be easier to just write down some of the info. Like the info in the Command Nexus - you could post something like:

Scout Rovers: 4 active, 0 prod, 0 lost
CP: 0 act, 2 prod, 0 lost
Battle Ogre Mk1: 1 act, 0 prod, 0 lost

Or you could even summarize the total empire output in posts. Like:

Total population: 4
total nutrient output: 17 - 8 = +9 surplus
Total mineral output: 11
Total energy output: 13

(BTW, those should be correct figures for MY 2120.)

But anyway, great work so far.

	28-07-2004 22:41									#22
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Thanks.
I like the graphical version, but you are welcome to post the low-bandwidth data to the commnex. Update for the next decade will be done after I've grabbed some sleep tonight. Tired.

	29-07-2004 06:45									#23
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State of the Empire, 2120

	29-07-2004 08:16									#24
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Excellent job! It's as if I can actually load the turns. Now I can give equally informed input on the next several turns. It looks like you covered everything, although I might post some interesting miscellaneous information in the thread.

	29-07-2004 08:23									#25
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Go for it.