07-07-2004 05:47									#1
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Anyone else notice that after patching to 1.22 that if you irrigate grasslands the food stays at 2 - but it works ok on the grasslands with the hay source, giving you the full 4 foods after irrigating.

Hoping this is common and not just my game.

	07-07-2004 05:53									#2
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You sure this isn't because you're still in despotism?

	07-07-2004 06:03									#3
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Probbaly no one would notice, because no one would irrigate grasslands, while in despotism. Probably not even if they were not in despotism, unless they need the food desparetly.

Most would just mine it.

	07-07-2004 06:19									#4
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Good Grief... just noticed it actually after starting a new game after patching. Never thought about that. Great first post there for me

	07-07-2004 06:27									#5
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quote: Originally posted by BaysideLogHomes Good Grief... just noticed it actually after starting a new game after patching. Never thought about that. Great first post there for me

Its how we all learn!

Peace

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	07-07-2004 09:51									#6
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That is how it is supposed to work.

Grasslands gives 2 food. Irrigated grassland one extra, so 3. Wheat resource gives 2 bonus food, so 5 in total. Under despotism however, you get a penalty of one, so irrigated wheat grassland will only give 4 food.

Because of the despotism penalty, irrigated grassland gives the same food as unimproved grassland, which is why most players mind grassland under despotism.

	07-07-2004 20:20									#7
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quote: Originally posted by BaysideLogHomes Great first post there for me

	08-07-2004 00:51									#8
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To make use of this thread....

Anyone know why Agricultural civs don't get the city centre tile food bonus under despotism unless they are adjacent to freshwater?

	08-07-2004 06:05									#9
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If you mean mechanics-wise, anything resource that's produced over 2 on a tile is reduced by 1 (you probably knew that ) even if it's on the city tile.

If you mean why it isn't a general exception, getting it in every city would be way too powerful. As it is, the fresh water exception makes Ag a bit unbalanced IMO.

	08-07-2004 09:35									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Kloreep If you mean mechanics-wise, anything resource that's produced over 2 on a tile is reduced by 1 (you probably knew that ) even if it's on the city tile.

If we're talking purely about game mechanics, wouldn't this mean that under despotism the 3 food on a river that a city square gets should be reduced to 2 anyway?

As for the original question, my guess is simply because that's the way they designed it to be as a trait feature, irrespective of game mechanics. And as Kloreep says, perhaps they gave the bonus under despotism only to river tiles because it would otherwise be too powerful.

	08-07-2004 22:03									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Aqualung71 If we're talking purely about game mechanics, wouldn't this mean that under despotism the 3 food on a river that a city square gets should be reduced to 2 anyway?

Yes, it should. But fresh water cities are given an exception to give the trait some early-game power. (Err, some may be an understatement in some situations. )