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On a cold wet rock, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Dec 2003
time: 05:35
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Damn, I wanted Rome.
Please do not read this thread if:
1) You are playing as the Romans
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2) You have not yet explored the entire starting land mass.
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3) You have not yet entered the Middle Ages.
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4) You're Dom and (for some reason) drastically behind me (I can dream, can't I?) - Yes I can...
He looked out over fields and pastures. He watched the sublime waterfall power over the cliff and plummet majestically to the pool at its' base. He regarded his countrymen labouring to bring food and prosperity to their families.
Then he woke up. He was freezing, starving, deafened by the howling wind and drenched by the rain, and when he went to observe his new homeland he could barely make out the cattle that accompanyed them and promised them a succesful future. The band of men that followed him, not through any beliefs in a better future but through fear for their lives huddled together. Some of the women on the outside of the group were already near death, the children in their arms were closer still...
They could not travel any further, he mused, before to many died. If too many died, then his hope of a colony and underlings would vanish...they must settle here, he decided...but first the must make it through the night...If the Romans caught them...
Ok, DAR time:
Standard opening. Move worker to cow to save worker turns and explore.
Research pottery while building defence and scouts, then granary, then hopefully nice growth.
The holy banana should give 4 turn growth, when it is cut down, so more early workers and a priority, if there are enough bonus grassland tiles.
Comment as you see fit.
I need the help, since Dom out classes me in every department.
Irrigate then road, then move to forest chop.
Warrior then worker (I know, suicidal, but lets see what happens). The forest chop will be directed onto a hoplite, then a settler then Granary. I hope.
EDIT: I just noyiced that this is Demigod, and I have not really ever made an attempt to beat it, but I normally find it a little difficult in the beginning. Since we are not attacking the AI, I will need to REX like hell, so I will need that banana asap.
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Krill
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On a cold wet rock, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Dec 2003
time: 05:35
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He had watched his small band of men and women grow. Now they numbered in their hundreds. But they were still not safe. They had no army, no other camps, just a mindless crowd doing nothing but farming to grow food for their families.
But that was about to change, for He was about to decided their fates this evening.
I thought that, while the stats of the hoplite are high, I would need to many to become average to the AI, thus spoiling the REX. I only have a couple of strats that are of any use at this level, since this is the first time I am really trying to beat demi.
1) 2 warriors then a granary (with 1 chop) then a settler... This gives me little defence, so I don't have much power to adapt.
2) 2 warriors, then hoplite with chop, then Granary.
This gives me more defence, but it will be a while before the REX starts. I would prefer this to plan 1 because it should only take about 3 extra turns, and that 3 defence will come in handy against anything up till and including swords.
3) warrior->worker->Hoplite->Granary= lack of exploration. No way will I do this, and give Dom an easy chance to subvert the AIs against me. There would be about 3 chops, so it would be quick and easy to build a defence and clear that jungle. Maybe.
4) Warrior->settler->Granary
New city: Warrior->Warrior->hoplite->Hoplite
The new city will be able to build enough units to defend and add to the exploration and Athens would be able to start the REX soon enough.
I like the last one the best, but I'm to lazy to do all of the calculations 
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On a cold wet rock, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Dec 2003
time: 05:35
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One night there was an attack. Wild animals had broken into the settlement, and had attacked the cattle. He, the Krill, would have his followers build around the cattle a large ditch filled with water, to stop anysuch attacks in the future. Asa preventative measure, He also decided to form a small group of underlings to explore for any posible dangers, be they human or otherwise. He would not leave his slaves undefended again.
After a while, when the land had become more used to their presence, He chose to send out a portion of his devotees to build another camp at the foot of a large mountain to the east, as protection from anything that came down from the mountains...He had hope that the people of the camp would become skilled at war, and would pass on their skills to their progeny.
OK, I have built a warrior, and will have a settler in 3 turns (3350BC?)
My one warrior has moved south east, in a straight line to look for some nice land. The next warrior and hoplite will defend, then another warrior to explore...(all from new town) while the capital starts the granary and REX.
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On a cold wet rock, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Dec 2003
time: 05:35
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He awoke to see dawn. But this was not an ordinary dawn, it was the dawn of a new millenium. So many of His people had grown old and died, He had lost count, but to him it seemed that no more than a week had passed since He and his band of followers had arrived at this edge of the untamed Wilderness, and now the decendants outnumbered the original band a thousand to one. He had several roaming bands of fighters that were searching for dangers unknown. He had control over this, their capital city of large proportions, and another military camp of renegades and cut throats. His scientists had also begun working on making metals from rocks...He had ordered the construction of a large storeroom to store grain and wheat for the winter. Life was promising...
He was unsettled, nevertheless, by the rumours spread by the mysterious guide F11, who brought infomation of Rome, His pursuer. It was rumoured that the had a large city, almost twice as large as Athens. He was also unnerved by the lack of danger that had been uncovered. It was like the calm before the Storm...
Ok, It is the Dawn off the new millenium, I have 2 towns, Athens and Sparta. Sparta works the BG 1 of itself, and Athens works the cow/forest or cow/BG, to time the build of the granary so that it finishes one turn short of its' original completion date. Sparta has built one warrior, and will build another (completes one turn before growth bcause of PBEM game mechanics), and then 2 hoplites.
I have not yet met any of the AI 
I am researching IW (I am not sure that I will be able to trade for it, and I am not sure that the wheel would still be undiscovered by the AIs when I finish researchng it/we contact eachother). I want to know where the iron is so that I can get some and use it in a trade to get a civ to attack Dominae.
(edited typos and added story)
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On a cold wet rock, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Dec 2003
time: 05:35
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and F11: Dom seems to be aiming to produce an early granary without the early settler. While his method offers a faster REX, I want to settler bop so that I can have enough land to make use of COM, this being demi and the AI starting with 2 settlers...
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On a cold wet rock, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Dec 2003
time: 05:35
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At last! News had filter back through His scouts that other peoples had been found!! From the first scouts to have left their lands, He heard of a series of Markers that proclaimed land far away to belong to the irate Persians and their leader Xerxes. The scouts had not yet encountered any of the Persians themselves, but He was hopeful that the Persians would at least trade fairly with Him.
His other scouts held news of a different kind. They had met a band of men from the Babylonians, and since it had not taken so long to meet them, then it probably meant that they were close to His cities already. They were also arrogant, a byproduct of being so technologically advanced, He deducted. While The Krill knew of pottery and the propeties of certain metals, the babs, as they were quickly nicknamed, also knew of brick making, how to make cirles of wood, had an honour code of warriors and proud ceremonies for burials and fabulous temples raised in devoution of the obscure god called RNG, or The Rather Nasty God, as it was to be called later...The only knowledge that He and his people possesed exclusively was the Greek alphabet, known from the start...What was it worth, He wonders...Some time later He gets a bargain from the Babs, trading His unique alphabet for the so-called warrior code and the secrets of plum lines and bricks...alls good on the diplomatic scene, it seems...but for how long until the Romans turn up??
Ok, I met the first AI in 2800BC: The Babylonians. They have:
The Wheel
Masonry
CB
WC
I have Pottery and Alpha.
I don't trade becasue I can see the Persians with my first warrior.
So on the next turn Babylon have acquired Pottery 
Next turn I will trade alpha, I hope.
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On a cold wet rock, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Dec 2003
time: 05:35
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quote:
The Voxian war was pretty straightforward: bombardment is powerful. |
that and never sell maps to other humans...
ouch...in this game I will probably aim for leos (I like to build an SoD, then upgrade it when I have Feud, and it is out dated. Insta-heal is also nice). In this game I think I am going to need alot of horses. Do you think your old chariot->horseman->death and destruction will work on Dom? If I can cut his iron, I am in with a chance...
Arrian, shooting for the moon is all good and well, but when you achieve it as often as you do, some people become scared...
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On a cold wet rock, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Dec 2003
time: 05:35
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ok, I noticed that Persia had 3 workers and a slave next to my warrior. I thought, what the hell, the less workers he has, the less improved terrain, and the fewer settlers to contend with.
I bopped the northern worker, and (because I'm last) noticed that the worker pair are still in reach, but an archer moved out of the FoW.
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On a cold wet rock, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Dec 2003
time: 05:35
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basic pic with info:
(update: seconds ago I got CB from a hut on Demi. Thank god I did not get barbs, or my 2 warriors woud be dead)
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On a cold wet rock, in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Dec 2003
time: 05:35
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er, one reg hoplite, one vet archer, and one 1 pop town to Persia, whom I declared war on my self 
If I don't get peace from them I will lose my other towns (I only have 3 decent towns, 2 have barracks, my capital has a granary, but is maxed out at size 5, producing archers, while the others produce hoplites)
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