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Cort Haus is offline Cort Haus
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  Old Post 12-07-2004 21:44
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No reply, AFAIK, from Tabemono about tech plans - like what the price will be for Gunpowder, whether they have any buyers for Invention, and/or whether we should research Monotheism.

I'm inclined to start on Monotheism this turn to complete in 6 turns at 50%, -41gpt, then try use that as part payment for Gunpowder.

I've a feeling that Tabemono may not be in too much of a hurry to trade Invention and Gunpowder to their neighbours.

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Start

Izz, BC complete workers (Izz128, BC128)
Sil, Ciao, CoS complete Cats



Cities

BC Starts Worker
Izz starts Cat
Izz & Burundy set for +5f
Take a turn off Sexytune's CH from 9 to 8 turns by disbanding a warrior and shortrushing 1

shield.
Disband warrior in Silkfest.


Worker Moves

New worker 'BC128' to tile BC222
BC126 roads CM8
4 wrkrs at CM88 move 2 to CM8
BC124 is freed up a turn earlier than expected, he moves 2
CM250 at Frisco2 roads
Izz127 moves to help with jungle 21
Wrkr at NP23
3 wrkrs at SexyTune4 mine
3 wrkrs at Corinth33 mine
At Sil33, Izz104 roads, Izz124 mines
3 wrkrs at Cov-1 to jungle Plymouth9
Izz128 moves south


Naval

Dumpy and Jumpy move 669
Frumpy moves 666
QV forts nr sea-lane



Unit Moves - Core & Jungle

Warr at CM7 into CM
Troops on Python war road move south
Archer FP moves into Silkfest and upgrades for 40g
Cat from Ciao to BC
Cat from CoS to Ciao
Cat from Sil moves to Sw4
LB at Sw3 moves to BC6
2 Warrs at Swindon move 222 to disband in Cat cities
2 Spears at BC move 222
Spear at BC222 moves 22



Unit Moves - South

2 4/4 horses at Baboon 223 move 3 at sight barb camp with 1 warr and 1 horse 66 of new

position. 3/4 Horse (survived barb attack last turn forts.
Dumpy unloads 4/5 horse onto Baboon 223


Unit Moves - West

Barb spotted in Wild West
Warrior on Mountain Forts
Warrior on fwd hill moves 1 and sights barb camp
Scout moves 22



On the Books

1 Settler
40 Workers
6 Warriors
14 Longbows
9 Spears
1 Sword
16 Horses
3 Cats
4 Galleys


Diplo

WM to Python.


End

-37 gpt, 388g (4.5.1)
Monotheism in 6 turns.

Pop 2521K - 3rd
GNP 255m - 2nd (up one)
Mfg 100 - 2nd (up one)
Land 20800 - 3rd
Income 3 - 4th
Prod 354 - 2nd

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14 Longbows
9 Spears
1 Sword
16 Horses
3 Cats


Ok. Let's keep building cats and the odd longbow. If we can get muskets, advancing with 8-10 should be plenty to defend our stack. Knowing whether or not we have saltpeter will help decide whether or not we feel the need to build more spears for the second assault, so let's not build any more until we get GP (if we have it, chances are we can cut it at will - I just hope Ciao isn't built on it. Even then, we could trade it away to Python for them to upgrade units and to allow us to build spears for upgrade). We need a lot more cats, so that's fine. I'd like us to gather ~20 cats.

20 longbows
10 muskets
20 cats
13 horse (plus the three down south making themselves irritating)
1 sword

That's going to pack a pretty good punch. I say we advance down Monkey's west coast, town by town, moving counterclockwise around their empire. We should leave PC for last, since it's got the capital bonus and is also size 7.

-Arrian

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Hrm. I was just thinking about upgrade costs.

10 spear -> musket upgrades = 800 gold

After we get monotheism, I think we need to go max tax for a bit, Cort.

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Yes, that's a fair few shekels. If we don't want to delay too long we could skimp on two-or-three upgrades, perhaps, however ...

... with terrain improvements coming online rapidly in the Cheeky Monkey / Plymouth area, we can give our economy a shot-in-the-arm by adding some of those workers to the cities, turning upkeep into commercial and industrial production. Our Commercial trait is kicking in nicely now the FP is up. Even Cow River is churning 2spt! The courthouse cities in the NW are only 8/9 turns from completion, and the 10% lux slider is generating way more happiness in our core cities.

When we get Monotheism we could even consider a Cathedral or two for some size-twelve-ing.

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Monkey have Engineering and will be going for Invention. They probably have as many military units as us - around sixty - with 40 supported free by their 8 cities, leaving them paying around 20gpt for upkeep. Their maint costs are probably not too high, so there is a risk of them getting Invention and starting their own offensive before we're ready.

Beta said they had something to 'ponder' on the turn thread, which might be ominous.

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We need to make sure our forces in the area can retreat if they need to, to give ground and buy time until we've mustered our new wave.

They're gonna be a really tough nut to crack with Longbows, shite.

-Arrian

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Cort,

FYI: my ability to get online during the day (normally my most active time) may be intermittant... yesterday Apolyton showed up as a "blocked site" and I couldn't get in at all. Today, after deleting some internet files & cookies, I could get in, but I need to be careful.

Not that I've been super active anyway, but you get the idea.

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I 've been having a little difficulty accessing too. Keeps saying the Server is busy.

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