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Maniac

Emperor

Gent, Belgium
Jul 1999
time: 06:36

13-07-2004 22:01

Two next base locations

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There have been made a few base location suggestions for our next two CPs. I thought I'd summarize them all in this thread, so we can decide what course to follow.

I had a bit of fun with Paint, and here is a map with the suggestions:

The White Proposal

SC1 CP goes to (63.23) - travel time 2 turns
SC2 CP goes to (57.21) - travel time 1 turn

SC1 CP Base would produce:
Base Tile: 2-1-2
First Worker: 2-1-0 rolling&rainy

SC2 CP Base would produce:
Base Tile: 2-1-2
First Worker: 2-1-1 rolling&rainy&river

Two bases taken together:
Nutrient Surplus: 4 nuts
Mineral Production: 4 mins
Energy Production: 5 energy

One base with ocean access

The Yellow Proposal

SC1 CP goes to (57.21) - travel time 2 turns
SC2 CP goes to (55.17) - travel time 2 turns

SC1 CP Base would produce:
Base Tile: 2-1-2
First Worker: 2-1-1 rolling&ainy&river (rrr)

SC2 CP Base would produce:
Base Tile: 2-2-2
First Worker: 2-1-1 rrr or 1-2-1 rolling&moist&river&crater (if we build a former first this could soon be increased to 2-2-1)

Two bases taken together:
Nutrient Surplus: 3-4 nuts
Mineral Production: 5-6 mins
Energy Production: 6 energy

One base with ocean access

The Green Proposal

SC1 CP goes to (66.24) - travel time 4 turns
SC2 CP goes to (53.11) - travel time 3 turns

SC1 CP Base would produce:
Base Tile: 2-1-1
First Worker: 1-1-0 rolling&moist (if we build a former first this could soon be increased to 2-1-0 - but I guess we'd build a gun foil or transport first instead)

SC2 CP Base would produce:
Base Tile: 2-1-2
First Worker: 2-1-0 rolling & rainy (or 1-2-0 sea mineral)

Two bases taken together:
Nutrient Surplus: 3-4 nuts
Mineral Production: 4 mins
Energy Production: 3 energy

Two bases with ocean access

***

Btw, if we would go with the yellow or green proposal for the SC1 pod, I'd suggest we move the Chiron Knights SW-W next turn and pop that pod west next turn. Because it will take ages before that pod ends up in a base radius.

Jamski

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May 2002
time: 05:36

13-07-2004 23:24

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White proposal looks faster, but Yellow is better basesites. Green is just silly. I mean SIX turns to get to "Green 3"?

Yellow for me please.

-Jam

Zeiter

Prince

Dec 2003
time: 23:36

14-07-2004 01:02

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My vote goes for yellow. Better basesites, expansion in the direction we want, ocean access, only 2 turns of travel time for both, 2 pods in the crater would be ready to pop, I can't find any arguments against it. White is tempting, and it was what I originally had in mind, but now that we find the crater soaked with rainy tiles, we just have to colonize that spot as soon as possible. So my vote goes for yellow.

Googlie

Emperor

Commanding Officer, CRYPTEIA
Apr 1999
time: 21:36

14-07-2004 03:11

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I'd vote yellow too - faster pop growth and better research rate. (plus, the CP's from these 2 new bases can move out to the more outlying sites)

Maniac

Emperor

Gent, Belgium
Jul 1999
time: 06:36

14-07-2004 04:44

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Heh that's easy. A unanimous vote for yellow.

Though with the recent discovery of that nutrient bonus (see map thread or presend save), how about we move the SC2 pod a bit further to (51.17) (the most western of the 9 crater bonus tiles, or in other words the tile SE of the nut bonus) to profit immediately from the nutrients?

(Who knows how many times we'll have to change our expansion plans with the constant exploration happening )

Dis

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Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:36

14-07-2004 06:22

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I'd like to get one in the crater, and one on gunrunners creek. Unless we have information of the hive in a certain direction. Then maybe we could try to prevent them from taking valuable real estate.

Jamski was asking why our cities are so far apart. Are we going to ICS? I'm not big on that, but have no problem doing it.

One city could be one square west and one square NW of Santiago citadel

perhaps the other could be one square NE and one square N of Santiago citadel (depending on the terrain of the unexplored square)

Dis

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Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:36

14-07-2004 06:25

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btw my above post was just my thoughts before reading the thread .

I didn't see the proposals.

Yellow proposal looks good to me.

Skanky Burns

Deity

Skanky Bastard Quartermaster
Aug 2001
time: 14:36

14-07-2004 10:45

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Yellow.

Kassiopeia

Emperor

Jyväskylä, Finland
Jul 2001
time: 07:36

14-07-2004 11:20

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Who am I to stand in front of a unanimous decision? That and I happen to agree with you. Yellow.

Jamski

Deity

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May 2002
time: 05:36

14-07-2004 15:48

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quote:

Jamski was asking why our cities are so far apart. Are we going to ICS? I'm not big on that, but have no problem doing it.

Well, its not so much ICS, but each square further apart the early bases are, is one more turn wasted getting into place. With a road network in place, bigger base spacing can be effective, but I guess we want a fast-startup ready for some massproduction of Impact attackers. That means a nucleus of small bases, close together as fast as possible. The placing of later bases will be determined, I guess, by the factions that originally built them for us.

-Jam

Andemagne

King

Rovaniemi, Lappland, Finland
Dec 1999
time: 07:36

14-07-2004 17:15

#11

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Yellow is fine with my.
and _THEN_ the next base shoud be in Gunrunner' Creek delta.

Skanky Burns

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Skanky Bastard Quartermaster
Aug 2001
time: 14:36

14-07-2004 17:54

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quote:
Originally posted by Jamski
The placing of later bases will be determined, I guess, by the factions that originally built them for us.

Maniac

Emperor

Gent, Belgium
Jul 1999
time: 06:36

14-07-2004 18:03

#13

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quote:
Originally posted by Jamski
Well, its not so much ICS, but each square further apart the early bases are, is one more turn wasted getting into place.

True. That's why the original plan was to found Santiago Citadel two tiles away from Sparta Command. But then we noticed Rio Grande. On our second turn we moved the CP on Rio Grande on the tile now east of SC2. Then on the third turn we first moved the CP 2/3 of a movement point along the river before founding the base. We still got the base on the same turn as we would have if we founded the base right away, but this way they were a little further apart, giving each some more breathing room.