30-07-2004 19:53									#451
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quote: Originally posted by Jac de Molay Didn't we start 3 WRs on our teams last year? I noticed it's only two this year. Just curious...

I went back to the first FF thread for this...
First, the question from Berz

quote: Maybe I'm not remembering this too well, but I thought we had 2 RB and 3 WR with a TE last year. I know FFZ had 2 RB, 2 WR, a TE and a WR/RB position. Shall we consider a WR/RB in addition to the standard 2 RB, 2 WR, and TE? I know that gives us 1 more scoring position than you'd find on the field but what the hell...

Then the response from commissioner Imran

quote: Yeah, but I realized something. 2 RB, 3 WR, and 1 TE (with 1 QB, of course) results in 12 players on the field . There has to be 5 OL in a real NFL game, and I wanted it get as close to a real Pro-Style with positions. This ain't the Canadian league.

The idea was to have only 6 offensive skill players. There was further discussion of TE vs. a swing position (like RB/WR or TE/WR), but ultimately we went old-school.

	30-07-2004 19:53									#452
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God damn it, Zop! Why the hell do you have to tease me like that?!?

*sighs*

Gimme 'bout twenty minutes or so...

	30-07-2004 20:07									#453
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BAPAY, reismark!!!!

	30-07-2004 20:20									#454
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I'm looking for this guy to step up this year. Big time. (It should be obvious as to why.) I had this guy as late-fourth round/early-fifth round, and to get him here (and as a backup no less) is a steal - as long as he's matured.

David Boston, WR (MIA)

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN)
3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL)

4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN)
4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC)
4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS)
4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS)
4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL)
4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF)
4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL)
4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU)
4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB)

5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET)
5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI)
5.03 Chris Chambers,, WR (MIA)
5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE)
5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (Cin)
5.09 New England, DEF
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND)

6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT)
6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE)
6.08 Baltimore, DEF
6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL)
6.06 David Boston, WR (MIA)
6.05
6.04
6.03
6.02
6.01

Japher is up.

	30-07-2004 20:22									#455
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quote: Originally posted by reismark God damn it, Zop! Why the hell do you have to tease me like that?!?

It's the position we're in, middle-of-the-pack. You snatched Alexander and Brady from me, and I snatched Coles and Heap from you

	30-07-2004 20:36									#456
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Where's the list of ppl we need? TE, Defense, K, and what else? Is there another position besides bench?

	30-07-2004 20:44									#457
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It's in the Yahoo place under league settings. QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, K, Def. The rest are bench.

	30-07-2004 20:44									#458
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1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 D

	30-07-2004 20:53									#459
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Thanks... Gimme a few

	30-07-2004 20:59									#460
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I just realized that both my WRs will have the same bye week

	30-07-2004 21:05									#461
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BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCE...

	30-07-2004 21:05									#462
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I just realized, my top three picks all have the same bye week. That qualifies as a big time Ooops!

	30-07-2004 21:07									#463
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It's only one loss...

Oh, and just to clarify -- it's 6 bench players, total roster of 14.

	30-07-2004 21:59									#464
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After much deliberation I have decided to go with:

Heck! I can't decided! K, TE, D or a bench WR or RB! Any that I choose to pick will look like reaching, and everyone will be all "You could of got him later".

So, I'll just take Minnesota, DEF

Yup, that's right!

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN)
3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL)

4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN)
4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC)
4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS)
4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS)
4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL)
4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF)
4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL)
4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU)
4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB)

5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET)
5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI)
5.03 Chris Chambers,, WR (MIA)
5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE)
5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (Cin)
5.09 New England, DEF
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND)

6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT)
6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE)
6.08 Baltimore, DEF
6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL)
6.06 David Boston, WR (MIA)
6.05 Minnesota, DEF
6.04
6.03
6.02
6.01

	30-07-2004 22:01									#465
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You could have got them later.

	30-07-2004 22:03									#466
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Jackass

The remainder of my list is a bunch of nobodies, 'cept the kickers.

	30-07-2004 22:24									#467
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Should I pm Tuberski?

	30-07-2004 22:30									#468
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OK, Japher, you've clearly gone off the deep end now. I didn't have the Vikings D on my board at all, and I don't see any reason to draft them unless you're a huge Brock Lesnar fan.

	30-07-2004 22:37									#469
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I figure I don't need a D when I got such a powerful offensive with Barlow and Boldin!

I guess it wouldn't help to tell you that it was either them or Atlanta... But then I'm a Mora Jr. fan; Go Niners!



Go Flippin' Monkey Men!!!

	30-07-2004 23:30									#470
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I'm going with the Dallas, DEF

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN)
3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL)

4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN)
4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC)
4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS)
4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS)
4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL)
4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF)
4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL)
4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU)
4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB)

5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET)
5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI)
5.03 Chris Chambers,, WR (MIA)
5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE)
5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (Cin)
5.09 New England, DEF
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND)

6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT)
6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE)
6.08 Baltimore, DEF
6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL)
6.06 David Boston, WR (MIA)
6.05 Minnesota, DEF
6.04 Dallas, DEF
6.03
6.02
6.01

Slowwhand is on the clock!

ACK!

	31-07-2004 00:01									#471
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If this was the 10th round or so, I could understand the run on the Def.

	31-07-2004 00:02									#472
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Damn it. I knew my first screwing would come from Tubs or Japher.



Fine. Whatevas.

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN)
3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL)

4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN)
4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC)
4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS)
4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS)
4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL)
4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF)
4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL)
4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU)
4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB)

5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET)
5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI)
5.03 Chris Chambers,, WR (MIA)
5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE)
5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (Cin)
5.09 New England, DEF
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND)

6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT)
6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE)
6.08 Baltimore, DEF
6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL)
6.06 David Boston, WR (MIA)
6.05 Minnesota, DEF
6.04 Dallas, DEF
6.03 Tennessee DEF
6.02
6.01

	31-07-2004 00:06									#473
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quote: Originally posted by gjramsey If this was the 10th round or so, I could understand the run on the Def.

This will explain why I went with the Dallas Defense:

quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Damn it. I knew my first screwing would come from Tubs or Japher.

ACK!

	31-07-2004 00:19									#474
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You're so bad.

	31-07-2004 01:18									#475
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for the record....if I take a Def before round 14, you have permission to laugh....

	31-07-2004 01:58									#476
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For the record, Defense gets points.
A LOT more points than a substitute.
Let me beat the rush and laugh now. :

	31-07-2004 02:10									#477
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quote: Originally posted by gjramsey for the record....if I take a Def before round 14, you have permission to laugh....

Good luck with the Cardinals, Texans, Raiders, Chargers, or Lions defense

	31-07-2004 03:12									#478
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laugh all you want!

From what I have always seen, except for 1 or 2 freakish occurences, most Def will score within 20-30 pts of each other. And usually it is the ones that no one expects that will score the huge points.

	31-07-2004 03:20									#479
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whatever gjramsey, I can't think of a single TE that will score as many points as an entire defense... or maybe I just don't understand the scoring.

	31-07-2004 03:32									#480
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gjramsey should rename his team the Unexpected Defense.