20-07-2004 08:11									#1
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Orders from the Ministers:

ALL MINISTERS, please feel free to edit this post to enter in your orders.

Place Save Here Beat you WIA

Pre-Turn Actions


Military Orders
(warriors)
Roadkill: Remain fortified as sentry
Anthea: 8
Grog: 6
Ares: Remain fortified as sentry
Con: MP in NA
Diomedes: MP in PH
Jason: MP in poly
Odysseus: MP in Hypnos

(hoplite)
Bellerophan:
Theseus: MP in Olympus

(archer)
new archer: 9


Worker Orders

#1 Roads-R-Us - Continue roading
#2 Fred & Barny - continue mining
#3 Oppressed Laborers - road


City Orders

#1 Apolyton - wf - Settler (horse), Barracks
#2 Hypnos - wf - Warrior
#3 Poseidon's Harbor - wf - worker, archer
#4 Naked Aphrodite - wf - Barracks (under way), hoplite
#5 Olympus - wf - build?

Diplomacy To Be Completed
Inform CDG of when we will get Philosophy ... aprox 5 turns.

Any Other Things To Be Done
Purchase a barbarian slave worker from PAL as soon as possible. Gold does not need to be exchanged for it to abide by the UN rules.

Last edited by Krill on 22-07-2004 at 23:09

	21-07-2004 23:31									#2
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Will do orders tonight when I get home from grocery shopping. Thanks for the patience.

	22-07-2004 05:56									#3
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quote: MOI orders – first in a long time. Thanks for the patience folks. As I have no access to poly, I will email them to Togas in the hopes that he can edit them in (or get them posted) prior to the turn being played if for some reason I don't get the chance. I am basing this off of the beginning save for 1500 bc. Poly is down, and I have no idea what was done during the last play. We have 8 squares to road in the next 20 or so turns, and only one worker working on it. Not possible. It takes 4 turns to road each square (3 to road, 1 to move onto the square). 4 times 8 is 32. Our schedule requires the iron to be hooked up on or before turn 82. Before I left, I left orders to do no improvements other than roading. Didn’t happen. No big deal, but we need to pull Fred & Barney off of their current area and send them up to help out Roads-r-us. It will take F&B 4 turns to join up. Use the GOTO command. Abandon his current build. This will also help out in that we will be able to connect to the horses close to our original guestimated schedule of turn 69. The build queues for our cities should be as follows (to turn 9, the start of the war): Apolyton: Settler (horse), Barracks, worker, settler(?), sword. The barracks is in a bad spot, but we need a filler to let our population regrow. Perhaps we should build a couple of regular hoplites? Hypnos: Warrior, Archer, horse, worker, horse, sword, sword Poseidon’s Harbor: Archer, worker, archer, currach, hoplite, sword, sword Naked Aphrodite: Barracks (under way), hoplite, archer, sword Olympus: Catapult, worker, catapult, granary, settler. The cats are a filler to allow the city to grow a bit. We need the extra worker, we have access to floodplain, so our growth will be good once we get rid of the dang barbs. If someone has a better filler, please let me know. I hate to waste a lot of time on regular units, and the cats don’t need a barracks. However, they will most likely be of no real use to us in our upcoming offensive. Equinious (horse city, or whatever we name it): Barracks, sword No other cities will be able to get any production out prior to the beginning of our war. Builds during the war we be hard to predict, as it will to a large extent depend on what the war does to our armies. Our research indicates we will have Philosophy in 5 turns or so. We do not yet have CoL. In our chats, I was quite explicit with them that we want CoL 5 turns before we finish Philo so that we have a buffer. Will the FAM please contact them and confirm what is going on. I would prefer we slow down our research a bit if it looks to be close. Thanks. --GK

	22-07-2004 11:01									#4
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Could we just send out next worker to help Roads? Seems wasteful to pull a worker off in the middle of a project. Can we wait for his project to end first?

Let's not build the barracks in Apolyton. Another regular Hoplite will be fine and we can never have too many Hoplites.

Olympus could also build: walls, temple, hoplite, warrior. We don't have to build a cat. We could also build weak archers to hunt barbarians. Personally, I'm leaning towards a temple. Will give us more floodplains to work and allow better growth.

A message has already been sent to CDG regarding CoL. They wrote back. We should get CoL shortly. No need to slow down research.

--Togas

	22-07-2004 11:59									#5
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I'd be in support of Olympus building an archer for barb hunting. The sooner we get those barbs away, the better.

	22-07-2004 20:01									#6
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For some reason I wasn't able to connect to poly last night from my home computer. Thanks for posting this Togas.

	22-07-2004 21:08									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Togas Could we just send out next worker to help Roads? Seems wasteful to pull a worker off in the middle of a project. Can we wait for his project to end first?

I agree with Togas, this seems a little wasteful.

I propose we move the PH tobacco citizen to the forest this turn and finish the worker to assist Roads, then do 2 archers. The third citizen is working the tobacco a lot anyway, so while we do lose some commerce, it shouldn't effect builds. We can slip in a turn with the cattle for PH to bring the fpt back up to 2.

So here's the WF I propose for this turn:
-Hypnos bonus grass (tile 6) to the roaded grass (tile 3)
-Apolyton forest (tile 8) to the bonus grass (tile 12)
-Poseidon's Harbor tile 1 (river bonus grass) switches with the apolyton cattle
-Poseidon's Harbor tobacco (tile 7) to the forest (tile 18)

	22-07-2004 23:06									#8
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Military orders in.

I concur with Togas, let the worker finish his project.

We need a name for our new Archer, how about Phobos again?

	22-07-2004 23:17									#9
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Phobos II. Son of the great Phobos.

	23-07-2004 01:18									#10
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Grr and :tongue to you Krill.... If I got up a few hours earlier....


0.o But then I'd be so tired as to be useless all day. Hmm...

	23-07-2004 03:33									#11
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atleast we have a safty net to catch the save no matter what. Naming the archer, could we name him Hermes?

	23-07-2004 04:30									#12
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The save is in. I'll be in chat in about an hour. Still at the office.

--Togas

	23-07-2004 09:12									#13
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Turn Results

Played in chat with Kloreep, OctavianX, conmcb25, Master Zen, Whitebandit, WIA, using posted orders at 3:30am GMT

RESULTS IN NATURAL ORDER

Archer renamed to Phobos II and moved 9 into Olympus.

Oppresed Laborers start on Road on Ivory

Grog moves 9

Anthea moves 8

City Workforce Adjustments:
-Hypnos bonus grass (tile 6) to the roaded grass (tile 3)
-Apolyton forest (tile 8) to the bonus grass (tile 12)
-Poseidon's Harbor tile 1 (river bonus grass) trades with the Apolyton cattle tile
-Poseidon's Harbor tobacco (tile 7) to the forest (tile 18)

IMPORTANT NOTES
We did not receive CoL from CDG. Philosophy in 5 turns.

APOLYTON's settler will come out in 4 turns.

The Ivory road will be finished before any of our cities grow, allowing us to safely increase our population 1 higher.

We are solidly ranked #3 in all key categories.

City sizes:
PAL 4
CDG 2 (recent settler build!!!)
BAT 7
GWT 2

Our military is AVE to PAL and STRONG to CDG.

--Togas