21-07-2004 18:58									#31
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Selling 1 commerce in X

	21-07-2004 20:07									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Uber KruX I'm looking to buy a shield. Is anyone interested in selling one, or trading for some of my goods? I have 3 food and 4 commerce, as well as my vassal.

Perhaps, if Esoteric agrees, I can buy a shield from him and your vassal and he can then sell you one shield, making a three-way trade.

I propose that we pay each other in gold according to final market prices, or do you have other ideas about that? I like to hear them.

Aidun

	21-07-2004 23:36									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Esoteric Uber- I have 2 shields just loitering around my store houses collecting dust. Make me an offer.

1 food and the use of my vassal? You could then trade it to Aidun, if you so desire. I have no use for him yet.

	21-07-2004 23:41									#34
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I am looking to trade shields for my commerce. If anyone is interested, let me know.

	21-07-2004 23:52									#35
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Both The Asylum and X have $300, Feudality has $200.

quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb On the other hand, if you converted one of your unhappy citizens to a Tax Collector you would be okay and would have 600 gold to allocate as the Tax Collector would add an addition 3 gold to your Treasury income.

We were going with the Tax Collector (+2 commerce), so should have $500.

	22-07-2004 00:03									#36
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quote: Trading General Locus 1 Commerce for 2 Shields and the use of his Vassal.

Yes, GF this is correct, sorry for the delay

quote: What about the free labor from my sla... vassal?

No Gamecube, the rule states that if you will be building a structure in the city, such as a Gem Specialty Shoppe that at least one labor must be from the city per turn that you are building the project. Thus, you can use your vassal to get it done faster maybe, but you must also bid on city labor...

let the bidding begin!!

	22-07-2004 00:06									#37
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quote: I am looking to trade shields for my commerce. If anyone is interested, let me know.

Trade shields?? Wait a second, per our agreement from last trading session you are to give me one of your shields, and in exchange I am to not sell two of my commerce in Feudality. Can you confirm this, please?

	22-07-2004 05:05									#38
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How exactly does bidding for city labor work anyhow??? Must it be during a trading session? Or After??? just curious....

	22-07-2004 05:32									#39
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quote: Originally posted by General Locus Trade shields?? Wait a second, per our agreement from last trading session you are to give me one of your shields, and in exchange I am to not sell two of my commerce in Feudality. Can you confirm this, please?

That is correct. But what I meant is, I am willing to sell my commerce for shields. Also, Uber Krux, owes me a shield.

	22-07-2004 05:45									#40
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got ya

	22-07-2004 05:53									#41
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Got ya?

	22-07-2004 06:03									#42
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as in... yo comprendo! No lo comprendas!!! :P

What I mean to say is that...."got ya" , as in I understand what you were tryin' to say.

	22-07-2004 06:12									#43
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I see.

	22-07-2004 06:37									#44
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FEUDALITY

- Final Food (60%), Shields (20%), Commerce (20%)
Food ($120)/9 = $13.33
Octavian X sells 2 Food in Feudality for $26.66
Thrumble sells 4 Food in Feudality for $53.32
Tarquinius sells 3 Food in Feudality for $39.99

Shields ($40)/1 = $40

Commerce ($40)/1 = $0
Thrumble sells 1 Commerce in Feudality for $40

Labor (2 Available)
No bids yet.



X

- Final Food (0%), Shields (0%), Commerce (100%)
[Food ($0)/0 = $0

Shields ($0)/0 = $0

Commerce ($300)/11 = $27.27
=OttomusCeasar= sells 2 Commerce in X for $54.54
Octavian X sells 1 Commerce in X for $27.27
Gamecube64 sells 5 Gems in X for $136.35 (+25% bonus)
Tarquinius sells 2 Commerce in X for $54.54
ZargonX sells 1 Commerce in X for $27.27

Labor (3 Available)
No bids yet.



The Asylum

- Final Food (50%), Shields (50%), Commerce (0%)
Food ($250)/1 = $250
Jonny sells 1 Food in The Asylum for $250

Shields ($250)/1 = $250
Aeson sells 1 Shield in The Asylum for $250.

Commerce ($0)/0 = $0

Labor (3 Available)
No bids yet.



** Other Transactions **
GhengisFarb is trading TORARADICAL 2 Food for 2 Commerce. -pending confirmation from TORARADICAL
GhengisFarb is trading General Locus 1 Commerce for 2 Shields and the use of his Vassal.
GhengisFarb is trading =OttomusCeasar= 1 Commerce for 1 Shield and the use of his Vassal.
Thrumble is letting GhengisFarb use his Vassal.
Esoteric is letting GhengisFarb use his Vassal.

	22-07-2004 06:40									#45
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quote: Originally posted by General Locus How exactly does bidding for city labor work anyhow??? Must it be during a trading session? Or After??? just curious....

Yep, you make a bid on it, like: "I bid $10 for 1 Labor in X", the highest bids win.

	22-07-2004 07:29									#46
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Don't forget... NM is giving me a shield this turn...


Just scroll up to the 9th post on this page

	22-07-2004 09:11									#47
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I will be obtaining one commerce from GF and one shield from NM.

I will be giving 2 shields to GF as well as rights to my vassal for the current session.

I will be selling 2 gem commerce in City of X and 2 gem commerce in Futility.

	22-07-2004 10:08									#48
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I do hereby confirm my trade with Ghengis Farb of 2 food for 2 commerce.
Also if I understand how this works (please correct me if I'm wrong) I will use my vassal and 2 shields to build

quote: STOREHOUSE {city or estate} (Costs 2 shields/labor) stores up to 20 commodities (including food). NOTE: you may store up to 10 nonfood items(shields/commerce) in addition to/instead of this 20 storage

by the next turn.

	22-07-2004 10:50									#49
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By our agreement, you can't put two of your commerce in, which means, you must take off a commerce from X or Feudality.

quote: Originally posted by General Locus I will be obtaining one commerce from GF and one shield from NM. I will be giving 2 shields to GF as well as rights to my vassal for the current session. I will be selling 2 gem commerce in City of X and 2 gem commerce in Futility.

	22-07-2004 12:40									#50
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quote: X - Final Food (0%), Shields (0%), Commerce (100%) [Food ($0)/0 = $0 Shields ($0)/0 = $0 Commerce ($300)/11 = $27.27 =OttomusCeasar= sells 2 Commerce in X for $54.54 Octavian X sells 1 Commerce in X for $27.27 Gamecube64 sells 5 Gems in X for $136.35 (+25% bonus) Tarquinius sells 2 Commerce in X for $54.54 ZargonX sells 1 Commerce in X for $27.27

er...

quote: I would like to sell 1 unit commerce in X, and 1 unit food in Feudality. Oh, and GF, you may borrow my vassal for this session if you promise not to whip the poor man to hard.

You missed my trades, I do believe, GF.

Also:

quote: Perhaps, if Esoteric agrees, I can buy a shield from him and your vassal and he can then sell you one shield, making a three-way trade.

Aidun, that will be fine. I want cold hard cash and lots of it. Uber I will take the food and the vassal, which Aidun can use if he makes a decent offer that I want.

Selling that additional 1 food in Feudality, please, if it is a done deal on the 1 shield traded to Uber for 1 food and the use of his vassal. (or do I have to wait till session 3 to sell a traded unit?)

	22-07-2004 13:45									#51
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Trade Esoteric 1 food and use of my vassal for one shield.

Gift my shield from Esoteric to NM and tell him to have fun with it.

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	22-07-2004 18:34									#52
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quote: I will be obtaining one commerce from GF and one shield from NM. I will be giving 2 shields to GF as well as rights to my vassal for the current session. I will be selling 2 gem commerce in City of X and 2 gem commerce in Futility.

I'm sorry I screwed this up slightly. I guess that's what happens when you try and conduct business right before bed. Ok....

per our agreement I am to pull two commerce out of Feudality, which is exactly what you did... I have 3 commerce originally and GF has given me one.... therefore I will be changing my plan to:

I will be selling one gem commerce in X and one (non-gem)commerce in X.

All of my previously mentioned deals have not changed.

	22-07-2004 18:35									#53
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also NM... I thought our deal was to pull two commerce out of Feudality... how does X factor into it??? :P

Regardless, I have pulled two commerce out and will not be selling them this turn.

	22-07-2004 21:39									#54
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For the near future, I authorize Ghengis Farb to manage my estate. I have some RL issues right now, and Im going to be fairly busy the next couple of weeks.

	23-07-2004 03:29									#55
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Okay my transactions:
I am selling 3 Commerce in the City of X.

I am bidding for 2 Labor in the City of X for $1 each.

I am using the Vassals of conmcb25, Thrumble, Esoteric, General Locus, and =OttomusCeasar= to convert 5 Shields into a Brewery on my estate.

I am using my Vassal and 2 Labor in the City of X to build a Tavern in the City of X.


Transactions for conmcb25:
conmcb25 is selling 1 Commerce in Feudality.
conmcb25 is selling 1 Shield in Feudality.

conmcb25 is loaning GhengisFarb the use of his Vassal and 3 Shields.

	23-07-2004 03:44									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Gamecube64 Use one labor and shield to begin the process of building a Gem Specialty Shoppe in X

How much are you bidding for the Labor?

quote: Originally posted by TORARADICAL Also if I understand how this works (please correct me if I'm wrong) I will use my vassal and 2 shields to build by the next turn.

A Vassal/Labor can convert 1 Shield per turn, so in order to use both Shields you need to hire a Labor from the city your estate is in the radius of or borrow a Vassal from someone.

quote: Originally posted by Esoteric (or do I have to wait till session 3 to sell a traded unit?)

No.

	23-07-2004 03:55									#57
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FEUDALITY

- Final Food (60%), Shields (20%), Commerce (20%)
Food ($120)/11 = $10.91
Octavian X sells 2 Food in Feudality for $26.66
Thrumble sells 4 Food in Feudality for $53.32
Tarquinius sells 3 Food in Feudality for $39.99
Esoteric sells 2 Food in Feudality for $


Shields ($40)/1 = $40
conmcb25 is selling 1 Shield in Feudality for $40

Commerce ($40)/2 = $20
Thrumble sells 1 Commerce in Feudality for $20
conmcb25 sells 1 Commerce in Feudality for $20

Labor (2 Available)
No bids yet.



X

- Final Food (0%), Shields (0%), Commerce (100%)
[Food ($0)/0 = $0

Shields ($0)/0 = $0

Commerce ($300)/17 = $17.65
=OttomusCeasar= sells 2 Commerce in X for $35.30
Octavian X sells 1 Commerce in X for $17.65
Gamecube64 sells 5 Gems in X for $88.25 (+25% bonus)
Tarquinius sells 2 Commerce in X for $35.30
ZargonX sells 1 Commerce in X for $17.65
Esoteric sells 1 Commerce in X for $17.65
General Locus sells 1 Gem in X for $17.65 (+25% bonus)
General Locus sells 1 Commerce in X for$17.65
GhengisFarb sells 3 Commerce in X for $52.95

Labor (3 Available)
GhengisFarb has bid $1 each for 2 Labor.


The Asylum

- Final Food (50%), Shields (50%), Commerce (0%)
Food ($250)/1 = $250
Jonny sells 1 Food in The Asylum for $250

Shields ($250)/1 = $250
Aeson sells 1 Shield in The Asylum for $250.

Commerce ($0)/0 = $0

Labor (3 Available)
No bids yet.



** Other Transactions **
GhengisFarb is trading TORARADICAL 2 Food for 2 Commerce.
GhengisFarb is trading General Locus 1 Commerce for 2 Shields and the use of his Vassal.
GhengisFarb is trading =OttomusCeasar= 1 Commerce for 1 Shield and the use of his Vassal.
Thrumble is letting GhengisFarb use his Vassal.
Esoteric is letting GhengisFarb use his Vassal.
General Locus is trading 2 Shields and the use of his Vassal to GhengisFarb for 1 Commerce.
General Locus will be getting 1 Shield from Nuclear Master.
TORARADICAL is trading GhengisFarb 2 Commerce for 2 Food.
Uber Krux is trading Exoteric 1 Food and the use of his Vassal for 1 Shield.
Uber Krux is giving Nuclear Master 1 Shield.
conmcb25 has authorized GhengisFarb to manage his estate.
conmcb25 is loaning GhengisFarb the use of his Vassal and 3 Shields.

	23-07-2004 06:11									#58
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I'm going to let everyone go over the transactions above and tell me if I missed anything before computing the final amounts.

	23-07-2004 06:17									#59
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Blech. I missed it.

	23-07-2004 06:28									#60
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Looks good GF, are the tarriffs official yet???