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Let Spielberg do the next trilogy, and it will kick all kinds of ass.

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Anyone else think the new dialog in the Emperor ESB scene was just plain awful? So now Vader doesn't even know that Luke exists until that scene? Incredible, they will have to change the opening scroll on Empire that said something like "Vader's obsessive for the young Skywalker" or something like that...


They don't have to change it. Vader is obsessively searching for Skywalker, he just doesn't know that it is his son. He realizes the Republic has someone very strong with the force involved.

I actually like the change. It shows WHY the Emperor is on top. He is either better with the Force or has control of a massive spy network. It shows the Emperor to be firmly in control of things and deserving of his spot as the Sith Lord with Vader as his apprentice.

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Let Spielberg do the next trilogy, and it will kick all kinds of ass.


NOO! Spielberg's latest movies have sucked something fierce. He just doesn't know when to end them. He goes just a few scenes too far and leaves the audience saying he should have ended it half an hour ago, ruining most of the film.

Besides, Spielberg would make SW just as Kid-oriented. I'd say that Ridley Scott or Peter Weir would be better choices.

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According to Peter Biskind, Lucas was always unsure of his creative abilities as a filmmaker, even in his American Graffiti days, and had a very hard time controlling his set... of all the '70s American wunderkinds, Lucas is the one that had the least amount of respect from the more seasoned veterans on his productions. In the British portion of the Star Wars shoot, the costume designer would mock the movie by saying stuff like (about Chewbacca): "Where's the dog? We need the dog out here!"

Even Lucas worried about how the movie would be recieved: "I've got 10 stormtroopers shooting at 3 people from 10 feet, and nobody gets hit. Who's going to believe this shiite?"

Now we have a person who feels that he has never succeeded as an "artist" who makes in personal income, on average, $300 million a year able to make movies that depend less and less on the creative element, where he never felt comfortable, but on the technical elements, where he doesn't have to worry about the "arty" types as much as, say, Woody Allen.

I think Robert Zemeckis would make a pretty good Star Wars movie, and I wouldn't mind seeing a SW movie from James Cameron either. Who else would be good SW directors if Lucas gave up the reins?

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Let Spielberg do the next trilogy, and it will kick all kinds of ass.


NOO! Spielberg's latest movies have sucked something fierce. He just doesn't know when to end them. He goes just a few scenes too far and leaves the audience saying he should have ended it half an hour ago, ruining most of the film.

Sure, the Terminal sucked, but Minority Report was great.
As for not knowing how to end movies, I can only guess you are referring to A.I, and I would have to vehemently disagree with you.

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Besides, Spielberg would make SW just as Kid-oriented. I'd say that Ridley Scott or Peter Weir would be better choices.


Weir's a cool choice, not one I would have typically associated with making a Star Wars film, but hey, I like the idea. Ridley Scott is pretty hit and miss, I personally don't think he would able to capture the imagination of the original Star Wars films. Say what you will about Spielberg being too schmaltzy, but that is something I think he would be perfect at.

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Sure, the Terminal sucked, but Minority Report was great.
As for not knowing how to end movies, I can only guess you are referring to A.I, and I would have to vehemently disagree with you.


Minority Report sucked, but maybe that's because he butched a short story I love. And I'm also refering to Minority Report as a movie that went on too long and you can't SERIOUSLY state that A.I. didn't go on too long. It had too many of those: it's going to end... oh wait, no it isn't.

Catch Me If You Can was ok, but nothing special (DeCaprio and Hanks made it good), and also dragged in the end.

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Ridley Scott is pretty hit and miss, I personally don't think he would able to capture the imagination of the original Star Wars films.


Well he has a pretty decent record with sci-fi imagination with Blade Runner and Alien. And, besides, I'm sure Lucas will somehow still be around and exercise massive control and come up with the 'imagination'.


Btw, speaking of DeCaprio (above), remember after Titanic when it was rumored he'd be Anakin and Star Wars fanboys were say NOOOOOO, anyone but him! After seeing Christensen, and watching Leo in movies like 'Gangs of New York', I wonder if they'd be singing a different tune these days .

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DiCaprio is a better actor than many people give him credit for being. And I prefer him working with real directors like Scorcese, Lurhmann, Woody Allen, and Speilberg than with a hack like Lucas.

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And I'm also refering to Minority Report as a movie that went on too long and you can't SERIOUSLY state that A.I. didn't go on too long. It had too many of those: it's going to end... oh wait, no it isn't.


I know that I'm in a minority, but I think that out of the three possible places that it could have ended, I like the ending as it stands now the best. I think the scene where David and his mom jump out of the closet and surprise teddy at the end with a background of a setting sun is just one of the most beautifully sad scenes ever captured on film.

Artistically, I would probably concede that the Blue Fairy scene would probably be the best place to end it. It definitely would have been where Kubrick ended it if he were still alive.

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Btw, speaking of DiCaprio (above), remember after Titanic when it was rumored he'd be Anaakin and Star Wars fanboys were say NOOOOOO, anyone but him! After seeing Christensen, and watching Leo in movies like 'Gangs of New York', I wonder if they'd be singing a different tune these days .


Hey, I've always liked DiCaprio. Even though I thought Hayden was absolutely wretched in Episode II, the kid can definitely act. He was great in Life as a House. I think his main problem in Episode II was Lucas' control-freak directing, a horrid script, and constant blue-screening.

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DiCaprio is a better actor than many people give him credit for being. And I prefer him working with real directors like Scorcese, Lurhmann, Woody Allen, and Speilberg than with a hack like Lucas.


Word.

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Artistically, I would probably concede that the Blue Fairy scene would probably be the best place to end it. It definitely would have been where Kubrick ended it if he were still alive.




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Even though I thought Hayden was absolutely wretched in Episode II, the kid can definitely act. He was great in Life as a House. I think his main problem in Episode II was Lucas' control-freak directing, a horrid script, and constant blue-screening.


I know everyone likes to blame Lucas, but Christensen was utterly horrid in those love scenes, and the director wouldn't have mattered one iota. Those were mostly the problems with the actor.

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I dunno, I admit that his performance sucked, but look at the lines he had to read. Stuff like (and I'm paraphrasing these) "I hate sand, it's rough, and gets everywhere.", or "I am hoping, waiting that kiss you gave me does not become a scar.You are in my very soul, tormenting me". Those literally made me cringe. It would have been tough to make those come off very well no matter who was the actor. For my money, Lucas takes most of the blame for how poorly those scenes turned out.

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Word.


I agree

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Back in the day though, like before RotJ was released, he said in interviews that 7, 8, 9 would involve a minor character who was just barely seen in ESB and who would be seen slightly more in RotJ and eventually become a main character in the next trilogy. The "other" that Yoda spoke of was originally intended to be this character, eventually he scrapped the idea of a third trilogy though, and no one really knows who the mystery character was intended be, though many have speculated.

Now that Jar-Jar made his debut in the original trilogy, I think the answer is obvious.

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Stuff like (and I'm paraphrasing these) "I hate sand, it's rough, and gets everywhere.", or "I am hoping, waiting that kiss you gave me does not become a scar.You are in my very soul, tormenting me". Those literally made me cringe. It would have been tough to make those come off very well no matter who was the actor.


I agree they weren't the best written scenes, but it seemed like Christensen was phoning in those scenes anyway. Another actor could have at least shown some feeling behind the cheesy lines.

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Yes, and we can only pray that they will be shot by someone other than Lucas. Lucas himself has recently said (though often giving contradictory answers) that he would never shoot 7, 8, or 9 himself (though saying in another interview that he has been toying with the idea lately ). But I'm sure Star Wars will continue someday, by someone.

Back in the day though, like before RotJ was released, he said in interviews that 7, 8, 9 would involve a minor character who was just barely seen in ESB and who would be seen slightly more in RotJ and eventually become a main character in the next trilogy. The "other" that Yoda spoke of was originally intended to be this character, eventually he scrapped the idea of a third trilogy though, and no one really knows who the mystery character was intended be, though many have speculated.


please let it be Mara Jade! Pretty please!

Do the Thrawn trilogy!

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"But it was so artfully done..."

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http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii...ws20040724.html



or, the movie i wont see because lucas is a dolt

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I'll wait till it comes out on thr free channel

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[q]Btw, speaking of DeCaprio (above), remember after Titanic when it was rumored he'd be Anakin and Star Wars fanboys were say NOOOOOO, anyone but him! After seeing Christensen, and watching Leo in movies like 'Gangs of New York', I wonder if they'd be singing a different tune these days .


While I haven't been much of a star wars fan in a long time , I do remember thinking good god not that shithead. And yes he would have done it better then Christensen. Then again so could most other actors.

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I heard somewhere that the next movie will not be called "Episode 3", opening a possibility that another film will be made to fill in the gap.

Jar-jar betrayed the Republic by introducing the motion that gave Palpitine dictatorial powers. Obviously he must be assassinated by any serious rebel movement. Perhaps hey'll introduce the Skywalker character as Jar-jar's assassin, or maybe the up and soming Bobba Fett will get his spurs by whacking the big silly salamander.

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Stupid.

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HBO has been playin Star Wars episode II for a while.

Don't ask me why I'm watching it. I'm a masochist. This film is painful to watch.

Although the actor who plays Anakin is really the only really bad actor. Though that bounty hunter's son is pretty bad actor as well. And as much as I like Natalie Portman, her acting is pretty bad in this movie as well.

It's interesting that she mentions how Anakin came back into her life she keeps thinking about him. From this I can only conclude she had the hots for Anakin when he was a little kid in episode 1. I'm thinking she's a peadophile.

But watching Anakin act, is just painful.

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I heard somewhere that the next movie will not be called "Episode 3", opening a possibility that another film will be made to fill in the gap.

Jar-jar betrayed the Republic by introducing the motion that gave Palpitine dictatorial powers. Obviously he must be assassinated by any serious rebel movement. Perhaps hey'll introduce the Skywalker character as Jar-jar's assassin, or maybe the up and soming Bobba Fett will get his spurs by whacking the big silly salamander.


Maybe he'll go back in time before the Naboo invasionand assassinate Jar Jar. Then Lucas will release Phantom Menace: The Definitive Edition, after paying everyone 30 bucks for having to endure the original.

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I always felt the Emperor was a bit of a Sithie.

 
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