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Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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Liberal and defender of freedoms for the people
Oct 1999
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Don't expect the mods to intervene when a death threat is made. I've had two made to me by what others might consider respectable posters (with a bit of thinking you'll be able to work out who). I won't say names but they know who they are; all this for a little subtle teasing on an internet forum. Some people shouldn't be so wound up about what happens here.

The second one, which I received a week or so ago was what caused me to stop posting here. When people can make death threats on forums (it wasn't even in a PM) and not be stopped from posting for it, and yet I can get banned for a few very short posts, something is wrong with the way the forums are run.

I get the feeling whether you get banned or not is more down to who you and your friends are than what you do.

No time to search the world around, cos you know where I'll be found.

Lefty Scaevola is offline Lefty Scaevola
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Oct 2000
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Just think of the publicity if we had a death online:

"Yeach, thats what I said, you commies anre a buch of thieving mudering swine!!!
*tip toe tip toe tip toe*
And what more.....
hey who is that! what are you doing here!
*smack wham choke*

AAAarrrrggghh."

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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Jan 2001
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Hey Laz, if you don't get with the program, it's curtins. Get me? [death smiley]

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Provost Harrison is offline Provost Harrison
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Feb 2000
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Wink  Old Post 11-05-2001 03:37
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I certainly didn't think it was a death threat, he didn't need a smiley, the way he said it was so nonchalant that it was quite easy to spot as a joke...

JohnT is offline JohnT

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Ming on 05-10-2001 01:27 PM</font>
Yeah... you never do "anything" wrong... somebody else is always at fault... you aren't a spammer... everybody else is a spammer... you are always in the right...
Your act is getting old Dookie... learn to take resposibilites for your actions, and maybe people will start taking you seriously.
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I really wanted to let this go, but I saw that this thread increased from 12 posts to 33(!) just while I was at work. I sent Chegitz a PM telling him that after some thought, I'm assuming that he had a bad day and I'll let bygones be bygones. To quote:

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Subject: Hey, are you ok?

Body: The "I will have you killed" comment was not the Chegitz that I know from these boards. Were you having a bad day or something?

Anyway, it is no big deal - as long as you didn't mean it that is!
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But...

I've got to wonder about a moderating system that has decided that talking too much (spamming) is more serious than a death threat and should be dealt with in a harsher manner. Both Ming and MtG have told me that it isn't a serious matter, with MtG going so far as saying "I've had a lot bigger things than words pointed my direction," which somehow is supposed to reassure me. But, let Dookie and, say, PH "chat" in a thread and they get 2 weeks vacation.

Am I missing something here?
<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by JohnT (edited May 10, 2001).]</font>

Lefty Scaevola is offline Lefty Scaevola
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Those commies all turn into genocidal murderers when they get power, Che just revealed his true character prematurely.

<font size=1 face=Arial color=444444>[This message has been edited by Lefty Scaevola (edited May 11, 2001).]</font>

Ming is offline Ming
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JohnT... If you really consider that single post a real threat
After receiving your PM, I looked into it. I sure as heck didn't see a "real" death threat. There was no build up of anger... no dripping fangs... just a simple wise arse response to your posts. (and you were baiting him) I posted a response for him to chill, and left it at that. That's all his post was worth. If you want to make a big deal out of it... fine. But I'm sorry, my opinion is different than yours. That was in no way a "real" death threat.

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Sprayber is offline Sprayber

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Oct 2000
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by cpoulos on 05-10-2001 06:08 PM</font>
Hey Laz, if you don't get with the program, it's curtins. Get me? [death smiley]


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We'ze got a nice spot with the fishes just fer him right next to that Hoffa guy. Or we'ze have that nice little deli in the old neighborhood. You pick.

*goes back to packing the DVD's that feel off the truck*

Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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Post  Old Post 11-05-2001 13:46
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JohnT,

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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Infatuation on 05-10-2001 12:36 PM</font>
I get the feeling whether you get banned or not is more down to who you and your friends are than what you do.
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Lazarus and the Gimp is offline Lazarus and the Gimp
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Cpoulos-

If you ever talk curtains to me again I will break into your house and wipe my knob on yours.

Gibsie is offline Gibsie
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Jan 1970
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Post  Old Post 11-05-2001 22:23
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I propose Bugs be banned for life for that comment.

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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Talking  Old Post 11-05-2001 22:24
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny on 05-11-2001 01:14 PM</font>
Cpoulos-

If you ever talk curtains to me again I will break into your house and wipe my knob on yours.
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Hey Laz, don't sing it, bring it! Enjoy your weekend!


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MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
Apolyton Grand Executioner
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Oct 1999
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Post  Old Post 11-05-2001 22:37
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by Infatuation on 05-10-2001 12:36 PM</font>
Don't expect the mods to intervene when a death threat is made. I've had two made to me by what others might consider respectable posters (with a bit of thinking you'll be able to work out who). I won't say names but they know who they are; all this for a little subtle teasing on an internet forum. Some people shouldn't be so wound up about what happens here.

The second one, which I received a week or so ago was what caused me to stop posting here. When people can make death threats on forums (it wasn't even in a PM) and not be stopped from posting for it, and yet I can get banned for a few very short posts, something is wrong with the way the forums are run.

I get the feeling whether you get banned or not is more down to who you and your friends are than what you do.

No time to search the world around, cos you know where I'll be found.
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Uhhhhh, it might possibly occur to you that we don't have enough time to read every single word of every single post on every single thread? I didn't see it, and you didn't tell me about it, otherwise, I would have taken a look at it, and decided if (about 98% probability) action was warranted.

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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</font><font size=1>Originally posted by JohnT on 05-10-2001 07:25 PM</font>
But...

I've got to wonder about a moderating system that has decided that talking too much (spamming) is more serious than a death threat and should be dealt with in a harsher manner. Both Ming and MtG have told me that it isn't a serious matter, with MtG going so far as saying "I've had a lot bigger things than words pointed my direction," which somehow is supposed to reassure me. But, let Dookie and, say, PH "chat" in a thread and they get 2 weeks vacation.

Am I missing something here?
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Apparently, since you included me in that comment. I haven't banned anyone for any significant time for spamming - and then only if they are spamming someone else's thread, warned to stop, and don't.

I looked at the post, and decided it didn't rise to the level of a real threat, and even you admit the post was totally out of character. I don't publicly discuss private communications with posters, ever, but I have made it clear in the past that I may talk to people privately about things that happen on the forum, and decide if anything is warranted. Under different circumstances, I might decide a post like that required some action.

My remark wasn't intended to reassure you. It was intended to let you know that I didn't evaluate the post as being serious, and maybe you ought to step back, look at the poster, look at the post, and figure it was maybe just an angry or sarcastic remark that came off badly.

chegitz guevara is offline chegitz guevara
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Oh lighten up.

I was going to go back and edit my "threat," but one, I thought it was obviously sarcastic (D'oh!), and two, my DSL chose that moment to go down and not come up again for over a day. Since it was on page two when I came back, I let it drop.

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Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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Yeah! And if you don't lighten up, I'll have you killed!

(Joke... seriously... no, don't ban me... ARGH )

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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I would like to request that Che be killed as soon as possible. Thank you.

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Lefty Scaevola is offline Lefty Scaevola
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Nah. He is already a commie zombie, along with Castro, the walking dead of economic/political theory.

faded glory is offline faded glory
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I propose Bugs be banned for life for that comment.
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Bugs should be banned for his name.

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Something about those without sin casting stones comes to mind here...

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Good point, lets stone him ..

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I can get stoned all by myself, thank you.

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Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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ROTFLOL!

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Kiss my fluffy little tail.

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Looks like this is turning into another spamfest. Y'all wanna close this thread?

Chris 62 is offline Chris 62
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Say that again, and we will have you killed!

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MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Not my job.

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Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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Bah! This thread is just pure spam..







The kind of thread I like!





 
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