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In CTP PBEM Ladder, should disappearing players count as a win?
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Yes 6 66.67%
No 3 33.33%
Total: 9 voters 100%
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ok, you guys figure that out and give me a comprehensible description of the result!


The ax man cometh.

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I will vote "yes" for the new rule - but as checkMate, I think we need to give the "other guy" a lillte kind kick before the ax is used.

As E-mails might be lost for some reason, I propose we use the Apolyton Private Message feature - with or without a copy to Quinns (or me or.... who ever) giving the other xx hours/days/weeks..... what-ever agreed upon when the game starts.


I like this. We can do that if Birdman agrees to be the one administering this This will not be part of the rule, but Birdman will do this if the rule is approved.

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I like this. We can do that if Birdman agrees to be the one administering this This will not be part of the rule, but Birdman will do this if the rule is approved.


Yeah without explaining it in some sordid details, THAT was what i was trying to avoid, "administration"

plain & simple no hear for two weeks game over unless a darned good excuse
1) cat ate my homework-NOT A GOOD EXCUSE!
2) Dog ate my cat who ate my home work..- nope not gonna be accepting that one either

3) my family is in hospital/bad storm tore my PC up..simple and thats good for us..just triplicate the insurance claims and we will be glad to process your claim should be in oh..about 10-14 weeks..

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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

~ahem~

any further activities to report on this matter?

Grumpee Grampa

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3) my family is in hospital/bad storm tore my PC up..simple and thats good for us..just triplicate the insurance claims and we will be glad to process your claim should be in oh..about 10-14 weeks..


Ok Steve. TheBirdMan accepts to be "the one".

Troll:

Family is in hospital = ok, good reason.

Bad storm= NO - not before you sign the Kyoto-agreement :seek-cover-men:

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The ayes have it.

I'll add a new "Note" to the ladder to make this "official".

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Note 11: (Ratified on 3-AUG-2004) Once a CTP PBEM Challenge Match is agreed upon by both players, then any absence from the game for over two weeks will result in a win for the present player and a loss for the absent player. This rule to take effect from 3-AUG-2004 forward, (i.e. this rule is not retroactive.)

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Ok Steve. TheBirdMan accepts to be "the one".

Okay, thanks Birdman!

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(heh heh heh)

[Attorney's for Grandpa Troll, LLC,INC. D.B.A. Who's Yo Daddy,Who's Ya Daddy leaving courtroom after verdict]



OFFICIAL STATEMENT RELEASE:

"We are happy with the ruling the process and the outcome despite those in dissension whom we hold no Ill-will toward"

(Thuis states an attorney for filing parties)

Peace

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Originally posted by TheBirdMan


Ok Steve. TheBirdMan accepts to be "the one".

Troll:

Family is in hospital = ok, good reason.

Bad storm= NO - not before you sign the Kyoto-agreement :seek-cover-men:


Agreed

umm

BUT

Purposely driving into a bad storm to go into hospital to avoid playing turns well..THAT will have to reviewed

Seriously, I aint heartless, just talking of the low-down no counts whom arent keeping up and dont ket anyone know about anything

Ok..Thanks and have fun!

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Note 11: (Ratified on 3-AUG-2004) Once a CTP PBEM Challenge Match is agreed upon by both players, then any absence from the game for over two weeks will result in a win for the present player and a loss for the absent player. This rule to take effect from 3-AUG-2004 forward, (i.e. this rule is not retroactive.)


Ok so you agree to play one never do and the whinner wins? Ok so you agree to play but never start a game but being away from the game you never started for two weeks means the complainer of the game you never started wins the game that did not exsist, except in an agreement to start the game you never played. But lost cuz you never played it, the game that does not exsist I mean. ok

And all this for what a notch in the win side that has no meaning in the rankings, wow this is starting to make sense now. ;0)

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quote:
Note 11: (Ratified on 3-AUG-2004) Once a CTP PBEM Challenge Match is agreed upon by both players, then any absence from the game for over two weeks will result in a win for the present player and a loss for the absent player. This rule to take effect from 3-AUG-2004 forward, (i.e. this rule is not retroactive.)


Ok so you agree to play one never do and the whinner wins? Ok so you agree to play but never start a game but being away from the game you never started for two weeks means the complainer of the game you never started wins the game that did not exsist, except in an agreement to start the game you never played. But lost cuz you never played it, the game that does not exsist I mean. ok

And all this for what a notch in the win side that has no meaning in the rankings, wow this is starting to make sense now. ;0)



For Non-Canadians it DOES

Basically

A "Hoser" & A Whiner (Think THIS is how its spelt?? agree and a person doesnt play a game..)

I mean Blackice maybe YOU like stale bread to eat on but some of us enjoy fresh bread that moves and dun grow moss on it


My whole point here was people coming and going and holding up games..

Kinda like the deal in a MP game where you have 6 people and one of them takes 20-30 minutes per turn

U Wouldnt play very long and most certainly would lose interest, would you NOT?

(Well, maybe not you but others may!)

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Just making sure I had it straight eh!

Will it deter people from doing it, not likely but it will put a conclusion to games that do not exsist yet and have never been played yes.

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Just making sure I had it straight eh!

Will it deter people from doing it, not likely but it will put a conclusion to games that do not exsist yet and have never been played yes.




Bingo!

We have a wiener

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The simple course would be to write it off as I do but new rules are always cool even if it is meningless at this point. i sure hope we do not use the win collum in the future only to find out number one spot is held by someone who won the most games by default...

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The simple course would be to write it off as I do but new rules are always cool even if it is meningless at this point. i sure hope we do not use the win collum in the future only to find out number one spot is held by someone who won the most games by default...


Well, I have another theory..

I guess I could have just given up and not been a man and played the turns out then left a player (S) holding the bag..

I mean it sez something if you win , correct?

and it sez something if you lose?

I read above comments about me playing all these matches with Blackygryffin..

WHAT I MISSED was when the people beat me and no comments were made...

How does that work..

If I get into a match and find out by turn "X" thats YIKES!! I bit off a bit more than I can handle..what would be the appropraite thing to do Blackice?

Should I play until I lose what was known by me a long time ago, i stood no chance..do i quit? or go on and make the most of it and try to learn?

Do I say "Nah, Ill just stop playing turns because this guy knows all the intricasies and I dont wanna play no more?"

Just asking, I see it that your point seems to be if say you and I agree on a match and then we set it and i up and dissappear...YOU should not get the win?

I dont have aproblem with that if thats your only bone of contention..

WHAT I DO have a problem with is people up and leaving to avoid a loss well into the game..happened to me and I didnt appreciate it..

If Quinns or anyone else wants to change it to make #11 "X" turns into a game then fine with me..

As for WINS VS LOSSES...

I guess it is a pride thing from years of competition..

AND many people look upon ones record as a sort of establishment of ones history..

I mean yes Blackygryffin is new so i get a win..

BUT the others 4 losses i played were against great players whom schooled me..and good..should they too get a win for whooping me so badly..

Just asking is All

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Well the game was played you lost, or won rankings changed or did not change, the reason is alive. A newbie comes along and disapears before the game even gets emailed...no biggy truckin

I like competition to but if the win slot has no merit which at this point is true, cuz if most of your wins come from flunkies/dropouts then how good are you really and do you deserve the ranking?

So ya that was the basis fro my original query what constitues a game a nod or an actual game where you spelled it out quite nicely joe blow over his head up and quits at the 50th turn. Ya you get the win and the ranking if it applies, and rightly so. But for a game that has never been played?

I think we agree here, eh! ;0)

hummm ya I think we do.

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Well the game was played you lost, or won rankings changed or did not change, the reason is alive. A newbie comes along and disapears before the game even gets emailed...no biggy truckin

I like competition to but if the win slot has no merit which at this point is true, cuz if most of your wins come from flunkies/dropouts then how good are you really and do you deserve the ranking?

So ya that was the basis fro my original query what constitues a game a nod or an actual game where you spelled it out quite nicely joe blow over his head up and quits at the 50th turn. Ya you get the win and the ranking if it applies, and rightly so. But for a game that has never been played?

I think we agree here, eh! ;0)


Ahem


hummm ya I think we do.
QUINNS!!

How about a modification to rule #11 wheras the game has to be started, thus making me and Blackice happy!!

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Just leave it be. If someone begins to abuse it, as you have described above, we'll talk about making another amendment then.

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Agree with Steve.

Just cheat the lawyers - don't make a case here before it is nessesary.

And if - then remember you have the AX-man close to you

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"I think we can settle before going to trial"

"Agreed"

and the whole court murmurred that it was a good thing.......


for now.....

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