11-08-2004 20:53									#331
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Hehe... exactly. I got 4 WR myself and don't need another one.

	11-08-2004 21:05									#332
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You can drop players!!?

I have 4 WRs too, course one is now a GIMP!

Still keeping him until the final report comes out

	11-08-2004 21:48									#333
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Looking objectively at your roster, reis, you're in fine shape. With 2 picks left, you could use a 4th RB, 3rd QB, or 2nd TE/K.

If you're going to propose a trade, do some homework and make a proposal.

You picked Porter in Round 6. What do you imagine you could get for him? You didn't draft McCareins until IIRC the 11th. And frankly, I still see a couple decent alternatives for the *two* teams who don't have a 4th WR already.

Trolling for trades during the draft -- especially when you're on the clock -- is a waste of time. Why not just pick your guy and move on?

	11-08-2004 21:49									#334
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quote: I'd rather watch you drop him.

Sorry, won't be happening. If it means I pass on Brown here, then so be it. I have my one Buc already anyway - this would just be gravy.

quote: As an old vet of FF, I would think you would plan these things...

I didn't expect Brown to sign anywhere until after we were finished drafting - and I certainly didn't expect him to come here. (I thought he was a lock to head to the other side of the bay like Jerry did a few years ago, since they need WR help so badly.)

quote: You picked Porter in Round 6.

Well, technically, I picked him sometime early in Round 11 to replace Boston - and that's about where I had expected him to go initially considering the injuries and the QB controversy.

quote: Trolling for trades during the draft -- especially when you're on the clock -- is a waste of time. Why not just pick your guy and move on?

Just to make things clear to you - we've got less than two rounds to go and almost a month until the season starts. Why not slow it down a little bit?

(Just kidding - I'm gonna think about it over lunch and post again in about an hour.)

	11-08-2004 21:50									#335
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit You picked Porter in Round 6.

He didn't pick Porter in the sixth, he took Boston in six, but was granted a replacement for Boston in the eleventh round, which was Porter. So this was a free pick that no-one needs to sacrifice a player for getting.

Now just make your goddamn pick!

	11-08-2004 22:52									#336
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Hm, I notice you didn't respond to my main point, reis -- which would be to propose an actual trade (or at least state what position you'd want in return) instead of this vague "anybody wanna trade?" thing.

My mistake re the draft timing. Forgot about the unfortunate Boston incident...

Now you have buyer's remorse due to contract changes putting Brown in Tampa? Just goes to show you how misguided the whole replacement pick concept is.

I might consider taking McCareins off your hands btw.

	11-08-2004 23:45									#337
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I'm going to pass on Tim Brown.

* reismark struggles to hold back tears.

It's tough, but I don't need anything else at WR. If someone picks him up, we'll definitely talk trade after the draft.

We'll still keep the Tampa love going, though, with this:

Denver Broncos Defense

(Lynch is gonna be ready to kill some people in that AFC West, ya gotta believe...)

1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN)
3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL)

4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN)
4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC)
4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS)
4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS)
4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL)
4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF)
4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL)
4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU)
4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB)

5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET)
5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI)
5.03 Chris Chambers, WR (MIA)
5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE)
5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (CIN)
5.09 New England, DEF (NE)
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND)

6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT)
6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE)
6.08 Baltimore, DEF (BAL)
6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL)
6.06 Jerry Porter, WR (OAK)
6.05 Minnesota, DEF (MIN)
6.04 Dallas, DEF (DAL)
6.03 Tennessee, DEF (TEN)
6.02 Mike Vanderjagt, K (IND)
6.01 Chad Pennington, QB (NYJ)

7.01 Jeremy Shockey, TE (NYG)
7.02 Antonio Gates, TE (SD)
7.03 Koren Robinson, WR (SEA)
7.04 Charles Rogers, WR (DET)
7.05 Marcus Pollard, TE (IND)
7.06 Chris Brown, RB (TENN)
7.07 Isaac Bruce, WR (STL)
7.08 Jeff Wilkins, K (STL)
7.09 Warrick Dunn, RB (ATL)
7.10 Keenan McCardell, WR (TB)
7.11 Alge Crumpler, TE (ATL)
7.12 Jon Kitna, QB (CIN)

8.12 Carolina, DEF (CAR)
8.11 Philadelphia, DEF (PHI)
8.10 Tampa Bay, DEF (TB)
8.09 Brad Johnson, QB (TB)
8.08 Freddie Jones, TE (ARZ)
8.07 Julius Jones, RB (DAL)
8.06 Jacksonville, DEF (JAC)
8.05 Joey Harrington, QB (DET)
8.04 David Akers, K (PHI)
8.03 Roy Williams, WR (DET)
8.02 Josh McCown, QB (ARZ)
8.01 Jay Feely, K (ATL)

9.01 Larry Fitzgerald, WR (ARZ)
9.02 Quentin Griffin, RB (DEN)
9.03 Moe Williams, RB (MIN)
9.04 Lee Suggs, RB (CLE)
9.05 Brandon Lloyd, WR (SF)
9.06 Boo Williams, TE (NO)
9.07 Miami, DEF (MIA)
9.08 Travis Minor, RB (MIA)
9.09 Jeff Garcia, QB (CLE)
9.10 Correll Buckhalter, RB (PHI)
9.11 Ashley Lelie, WR (DEN)
9.12 Jim Kleinsasser, TE (MIN)

10.12 Jason Hanson, K (DET)
10.11 Jimmy Smith, WR (JAC)
10.10 Jason Elam, K (DEN)
10.09 Rod Smith WR (DEN)
10.08 Tommy Maddox, QB (PIT)
10.07 Byron Leftwich, QB (JAC)
10.06 Justin McCareins, WR (NYJ)
10.05 Jake Delhomme, QB (CAR)
10.04 Jake Plummer, QB (DEN)
10.03 Dallas Clark, TE (IND)
10.02 Donte Stallworth, WR (NO)
10.01 Deion Branch, WR (NE)

11.01 DeShaun Foster, RB (CAR)
11.02 Najeh Davenport, RB (GB)
11.03 Billy Cundiff, K (DAL)
11.04 Muhsin Muhammad, WR (CAR)
11.05 Antowain Smith, RB (TEN)
11.06 Martin Gramatica, K (TB)
11.07 Marcus Robinson, WR (MIN)
11.08 Bobby Engram, WR (SEA)
11.09 Keyshawn Johnson, WR (DAL)
11.10 Steven Jackson, RB (STL)
11.11 Willis McGahee, RB (BUF)
11.12 Drew Henson, QB (DAL)

12.12 Tyrone Wheatley, RB (OAK)
12.11 David Carr, QB (HOU)
12.10 Andre Davis, WR (CLE)
12.09 Emmitt Smith, RB (AZ)
12.08 Randy McMichael, TE (MIA)
12.07 Bubba Franks, TE (GB)
12.06 Rich Gannon, QB (OAK)
12.05 Tai Streets, WR (DET)
12.04 Kevin Dyson, WR (SD)
12.03 Vinnie Testaverde, QB (DAL)
12.02 Rashaun Woods, WR (SF)
12.01 Ron Dayne, RB (NYG)

13.01 St. Louis, DEF (StL)
13.02 Carson Palmer, QB (CIN)
13.03 Terry Glenn WR (DAL)
13.04 Seattle, DEF (SEA)
13.05 Matt Stover, K (BAL)
13.06 Denver, DEF (DEN)

After you, Zop...

	11-08-2004 23:46									#338
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Zopper's turn

Btw, I guess this is as good a time as any to ask. Should we 'freeze' the rosters (ie, no waiver pickups, no dropping of players) until a week before the first game? This would allow there to be supplemental picks for training camp injuries (kind of like waivers, but not quite).

	11-08-2004 23:48									#339
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1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN)
3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL)

4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN)
4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC)
4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS)
4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS)
4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL)
4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF)
4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL)
4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU)
4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB)

5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET)
5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI)
5.03 Chris Chambers, WR (MIA)
5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE)
5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (CIN)
5.09 New England, DEF (NE)
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND)

6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT)
6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE)
6.08 Baltimore, DEF (BAL)
6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL)
6.06 Jerry Porter, WR (OAK)
6.05 Minnesota, DEF (MIN)
6.04 Dallas, DEF (DAL)
6.03 Tennessee, DEF (TEN)
6.02 Mike Vanderjagt, K (IND)
6.01 Chad Pennington, QB (NYJ)

7.01 Jeremy Shockey, TE (NYG)
7.02 Antonio Gates, TE (SD)
7.03 Koren Robinson, WR (SEA)
7.04 Charles Rogers, WR (DET)
7.05 Marcus Pollard, TE (IND)
7.06 Chris Brown, RB (TENN)
7.07 Isaac Bruce, WR (STL)
7.08 Jeff Wilkins, K (STL)
7.09 Warrick Dunn, RB (ATL)
7.10 Keenan McCardell, WR (TB)
7.11 Alge Crumpler, TE (ATL)
7.12 Jon Kitna, QB (CIN)

8.12 Carolina, DEF (CAR)
8.11 Philadelphia, DEF (PHI)
8.10 Tampa Bay, DEF (TB)
8.09 Brad Johnson, QB (TB)
8.08 Freddie Jones, TE (ARZ)
8.07 Julius Jones, RB (DAL)
8.06 Jacksonville, DEF (JAC)
8.05 Joey Harrington, QB (DET)
8.04 David Akers, K (PHI)
8.03 Roy Williams, WR (DET)
8.02 Josh McCown, QB (ARZ)
8.01 Jay Feely, K (ATL)

9.01 Larry Fitzgerald, WR (ARZ)
9.02 Quentin Griffin, RB (DEN)
9.03 Moe Williams, RB (MIN)
9.04 Lee Suggs, RB (CLE)
9.05 Brandon Lloyd, WR (SF)
9.06 Boo Williams, TE (NO)
9.07 Miami, DEF (MIA)
9.08 Travis Minor, RB (MIA)
9.09 Jeff Garcia, QB (CLE)
9.10 Correll Buckhalter, RB (PHI)
9.11 Ashley Lelie, WR (DEN)
9.12 Jim Kleinsasser, TE (MIN)

10.12 Jason Hanson, K (DET)
10.11 Jimmy Smith, WR (JAC)
10.10 Jason Elam, K (DEN)
10.09 Rod Smith WR (DEN)
10.08 Tommy Maddox, QB (PIT)
10.07 Byron Leftwich, QB (JAC)
10.06 Justin McCareins, WR (NYJ)
10.05 Jake Delhomme, QB (CAR)
10.04 Jake Plummer, QB (DEN)
10.03 Dallas Clark, TE (IND)
10.02 Donte Stallworth, WR (NO)
10.01 Deion Branch, WR (NE)

11.01 DeShaun Foster, RB (CAR)
11.02 Najeh Davenport, RB (GB)
11.03 Billy Cundiff, K (DAL)
11.04 Muhsin Muhammad, WR (CAR)
11.05 Antowain Smith, RB (TEN)
11.06 Martin Gramatica, K (TB)
11.07 Marcus Robinson, WR (MIN)
11.08 Bobby Engram, WR (SEA)
11.09 Keyshawn Johnson, WR (DAL)
11.10 Steven Jackson, RB (STL)
11.11 Willis McGahee, RB (BUF)
11.12 Drew Henson, QB (DAL)

12.12 Tyrone Wheatley, RB (OAK)
12.11 David Carr, QB (HOU)
12.10 Andre Davis, WR (CLE)
12.09 Emmitt Smith, RB (AZ)
12.08 Randy McMichael, TE (MIA)
12.07 Bubba Franks, TE (GB)
12.06 Rich Gannon, QB (OAK)
12.05 Tai Streets, WR (DET)
12.04 Kevin Dyson, WR (SD)
12.03 Vinnie Testaverde, QB (DAL)
12.02 Rashaun Woods, WR (SF)
12.01 Ron Dayne, RB (NYG)

13.01 St. Louis, DEF (StL)
13.02 Carson Palmer, QB (CIN)
13.03 Terry Glenn WR (DAL)
13.04 Seattle, DEF (SEA)
13.05 Matt Stover, K (BAL)
13.06 Denver, DEF (DEN)
13.07 Adam Vinatieri K (NE)
13.08

Over to Dissident

	12-08-2004 00:21									#340
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Btw, when you post your picks could you PLEASE post this:

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus

... it kinda makes it easier for me to imput all the results!

	12-08-2004 00:39									#341
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I'm in favor of freezing the drafted rosters until the day after the last preseason games. At that point, we can list all the injuries, retirements, etc. eligible for a supplemental draft. We then hold a quickie supp draft, after which time we could proceed normally with trades, waivers, etc.

(Of course, as a noob, I don't know how this has been done in the past...)

	12-08-2004 00:44									#342
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Don't worry, -Jrabbit we are all noobs with the freezing thing. I know that FFZ does it and I'm blatently stealing it with some tweaks .

In past years, we'd just open things up after the draft. I'd rather not do that this year.

	12-08-2004 01:19									#343
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Cool. Since I'm a noob in both leagues, consistency would be a bonus for me.

	12-08-2004 01:45									#344
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Well it's a bit different since we don't have a supplemental draft per se.

	12-08-2004 02:42									#345
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So, anticipating that I'll have a preseason injury or two, how will it work?

(C'mon, Diss!!!)

	12-08-2004 03:06									#346
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When the injury happens (according the the rule on it), you get to replace at that time with anyone undrafted.

	12-08-2004 03:38									#347
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I support freezing. give me a few minutes to make my pick.

	12-08-2004 03:48									#348
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Looks like I'll go with the Kansas City defense. They sucked against the run, but had a good turnover ratio. I think they'll be better (despite not any major signings).

quote: Originally posted by Dissident 1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks 2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat 3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers 4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers 5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men 6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks 7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros 8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers 9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies 10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers 11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders 12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus 1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC) 1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD) 1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND) 1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB) 1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF) 1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA) 1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO) 1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND) 1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS) 1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL) 1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN) 1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN) 2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC) 2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF) 2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND) 2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL) 2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL) 2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU) 2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI) 2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA) 2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR) 2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN) 2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE) 2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI) 3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN) 3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL) 3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR) 3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC) 3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI) 3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN) 3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT) 3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI) 3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ) 3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI) 3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN) 3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL) 4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN) 4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC) 4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB) 4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG) 4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS) 4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS) 4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL) 4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ) 4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF) 4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL) 4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU) 4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB) 5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET) 5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI) 5.03 Chris Chambers, WR (MIA) 5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO) 5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG) 5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE) 5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL) 5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (CIN) 5.09 New England, DEF (NE) 5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB) 5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA) 5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND) 6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT) 6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT) 6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC) 6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE) 6.08 Baltimore, DEF (BAL) 6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL) 6.06 Jerry Porter, WR (OAK) 6.05 Minnesota, DEF (MIN) 6.04 Dallas, DEF (DAL) 6.03 Tennessee, DEF (TEN) 6.02 Mike Vanderjagt, K (IND) 6.01 Chad Pennington, QB (NYJ) 7.01 Jeremy Shockey, TE (NYG) 7.02 Antonio Gates, TE (SD) 7.03 Koren Robinson, WR (SEA) 7.04 Charles Rogers, WR (DET) 7.05 Marcus Pollard, TE (IND) 7.06 Chris Brown, RB (TENN) 7.07 Isaac Bruce, WR (STL) 7.08 Jeff Wilkins, K (STL) 7.09 Warrick Dunn, RB (ATL) 7.10 Keenan McCardell, WR (TB) 7.11 Alge Crumpler, TE (ATL) 7.12 Jon Kitna, QB (CIN) 8.12 Carolina, DEF (CAR) 8.11 Philadelphia, DEF (PHI) 8.10 Tampa Bay, DEF (TB) 8.09 Brad Johnson, QB (TB) 8.08 Freddie Jones, TE (ARZ) 8.07 Julius Jones, RB (DAL) 8.06 Jacksonville, DEF (JAC) 8.05 Joey Harrington, QB (DET) 8.04 David Akers, K (PHI) 8.03 Roy Williams, WR (DET) 8.02 Josh McCown, QB (ARZ) 8.01 Jay Feely, K (ATL) 9.01 Larry Fitzgerald, WR (ARZ) 9.02 Quentin Griffin, RB (DEN) 9.03 Moe Williams, RB (MIN) 9.04 Lee Suggs, RB (CLE) 9.05 Brandon Lloyd, WR (SF) 9.06 Boo Williams, TE (NO) 9.07 Miami, DEF (MIA) 9.08 Travis Minor, RB (MIA) 9.09 Jeff Garcia, QB (CLE) 9.10 Correll Buckhalter, RB (PHI) 9.11 Ashley Lelie, WR (DEN) 9.12 Jim Kleinsasser, TE (MIN) 10.12 Jason Hanson, K (DET) 10.11 Jimmy Smith, WR (JAC) 10.10 Jason Elam, K (DEN) 10.09 Rod Smith WR (DEN) 10.08 Tommy Maddox, QB (PIT) 10.07 Byron Leftwich, QB (JAC) 10.06 Justin McCareins, WR (NYJ) 10.05 Jake Delhomme, QB (CAR) 10.04 Jake Plummer, QB (DEN) 10.03 Dallas Clark, TE (IND) 10.02 Donte Stallworth, WR (NO) 10.01 Deion Branch, WR (NE) 11.01 DeShaun Foster, RB (CAR) 11.02 Najeh Davenport, RB (GB) 11.03 Billy Cundiff, K (DAL) 11.04 Muhsin Muhammad, WR (CAR) 11.05 Antowain Smith, RB (TEN) 11.06 Martin Gramatica, K (TB) 11.07 Marcus Robinson, WR (MIN) 11.08 Bobby Engram, WR (SEA) 11.09 Keyshawn Johnson, WR (DAL) 11.10 Steven Jackson, RB (STL) 11.11 Willis McGahee, RB (BUF) 11.12 Drew Henson, QB (DAL) 12.12 Tyrone Wheatley, RB (OAK) 12.11 David Carr, QB (HOU) 12.10 Andre Davis, WR (CLE) 12.09 Emmitt Smith, RB (AZ) 12.08 Randy McMichael, TE (MIA) 12.07 Bubba Franks, TE (GB) 12.06 Rich Gannon, QB (OAK) 12.05 Tai Streets, WR (DET) 12.04 Kevin Dyson, WR (SD) 12.03 Vinnie Testaverde, QB (DAL) 12.02 Rashaun Woods, WR (SF) 12.01 Ron Dayne, RB (NYG) 13.01 St. Louis, DEF (StL) 13.02 Carson Palmer, QB (CIN) 13.03 Terry Glenn WR (DAL) 13.04 Seattle, DEF (SEA) 13.05 Matt Stover, K (BAL) 13.06 Denver, DEF (DEN) 13.07 Adam Vinatieri K (NE) 13.08 Kansas City, DEF (KC) -jrabbit is up

	12-08-2004 05:13									#349
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	12-08-2004 07:38									#350
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Even though Kellen Winslow finally signed, I've got a feeling I'll want a backup. Desmond Clark is now a cute Little Bunny.

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus


1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN)
3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL)

4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN)
4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC)
4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS)
4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS)
4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL)
4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF)
4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL)
4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU)
4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB)

5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET)
5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI)
5.03 Chris Chambers, WR (MIA)
5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE)
5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (CIN)
5.09 New England, DEF (NE)
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND)

6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT)
6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE)
6.08 Baltimore, DEF (BAL)
6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL)
6.06 Jerry Porter, WR (OAK)
6.05 Minnesota, DEF (MIN)
6.04 Dallas, DEF (DAL)
6.03 Tennessee, DEF (TEN)
6.02 Mike Vanderjagt, K (IND)
6.01 Chad Pennington, QB (NYJ)

7.01 Jeremy Shockey, TE (NYG)
7.02 Antonio Gates, TE (SD)
7.03 Koren Robinson, WR (SEA)
7.04 Charles Rogers, WR (DET)
7.05 Marcus Pollard, TE (IND)
7.06 Chris Brown, RB (TENN)
7.07 Isaac Bruce, WR (STL)
7.08 Jeff Wilkins, K (STL)
7.09 Warrick Dunn, RB (ATL)
7.10 Keenan McCardell, WR (TB)
7.11 Alge Crumpler, TE (ATL)
7.12 Jon Kitna, QB (CIN)

8.12 Carolina, DEF (CAR)
8.11 Philadelphia, DEF (PHI)
8.10 Tampa Bay, DEF (TB)
8.09 Brad Johnson, QB (TB)
8.08 Freddie Jones, TE (ARZ)
8.07 Julius Jones, RB (DAL)
8.06 Jacksonville, DEF (JAC)
8.05 Joey Harrington, QB (DET)
8.04 David Akers, K (PHI)
8.03 Roy Williams, WR (DET)
8.02 Josh McCown, QB (ARZ)
8.01 Jay Feely, K (ATL)

9.01 Larry Fitzgerald, WR (ARZ)
9.02 Quentin Griffin, RB (DEN)
9.03 Moe Williams, RB (MIN)
9.04 Lee Suggs, RB (CLE)
9.05 Brandon Lloyd, WR (SF)
9.06 Boo Williams, TE (NO)
9.07 Miami, DEF (MIA)
9.08 Travis Minor, RB (MIA)
9.09 Jeff Garcia, QB (CLE)
9.10 Correll Buckhalter, RB (PHI)
9.11 Ashley Lelie, WR (DEN)
9.12 Jim Kleinsasser, TE (MIN)

10.12 Jason Hanson, K (DET)
10.11 Jimmy Smith, WR (JAC)
10.10 Jason Elam, K (DEN)
10.09 Rod Smith WR (DEN)
10.08 Tommy Maddox, QB (PIT)
10.07 Byron Leftwich, QB (JAC)
10.06 Justin McCareins, WR (NYJ)
10.05 Jake Delhomme, QB (CAR)
10.04 Jake Plummer, QB (DEN)
10.03 Dallas Clark, TE (IND)
10.02 Donte Stallworth, WR (NO)
10.01 Deion Branch, WR (NE)

11.01 DeShaun Foster, RB (CAR)
11.02 Najeh Davenport, RB (GB)
11.03 Billy Cundiff, K (DAL)
11.04 Muhsin Muhammad, WR (CAR)
11.05 Antowain Smith, RB (TEN)
11.06 Martin Gramatica, K (TB)
11.07 Marcus Robinson, WR (MIN)
11.08 Bobby Engram, WR (SEA)
11.09 Keyshawn Johnson, WR (DAL)
11.10 Steven Jackson, RB (STL)
11.11 Willis McGahee, RB (BUF)
11.12 Drew Henson, QB (DAL)

12.12 Tyrone Wheatley, RB (OAK)
12.11 David Carr, QB (HOU)
12.10 Andre Davis, WR (CLE)
12.09 Emmitt Smith, RB (AZ)
12.08 Randy McMichael, TE (MIA)
12.07 Bubba Franks, TE (GB)
12.06 Rich Gannon, QB (OAK)
12.05 Tai Streets, WR (DET)
12.04 Kevin Dyson, WR (SD)
12.03 Vinnie Testaverde, QB (DAL)
12.02 Rashaun Woods, WR (SF)
12.01 Ron Dayne, RB (NYG)

13.01 St. Louis, DEF (StL)
13.02 Carson Palmer, QB (CIN)
13.03 Terry Glenn WR (DAL)
13.04 Seattle, DEF (SEA)
13.05 Matt Stover, K (BAL)
13.06 Denver, DEF (DEN)
13.07 Adam Vinatieri K (NE)
13.08 Kansas City, DEF (KC)
13.09 Desmond Clark TE (Da Bearsss)

On to Berserker

	12-08-2004 07:39									#351
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

BTW, Anquan Boldin had arthroscopic surgery today and is expected to only miss 2-3 weeks.

	12-08-2004 08:09									#352
	Support Apolyton

It's freaking amazing how quickly players can recover from knee surgery these days. And he'll probably be good as new.

Berz then me then Jac, and then the famed last round.

	12-08-2004 09:01									#353
	Suffering from ads?

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus


1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN)
3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL)

4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN)
4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC)
4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS)
4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS)
4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL)
4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF)
4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL)
4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU)
4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB)

5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET)
5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI)
5.03 Chris Chambers, WR (MIA)
5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE)
5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (CIN)
5.09 New England, DEF (NE)
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND)

6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT)
6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE)
6.08 Baltimore, DEF (BAL)
6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL)
6.06 Jerry Porter, WR (OAK)
6.05 Minnesota, DEF (MIN)
6.04 Dallas, DEF (DAL)
6.03 Tennessee, DEF (TEN)
6.02 Mike Vanderjagt, K (IND)
6.01 Chad Pennington, QB (NYJ)

7.01 Jeremy Shockey, TE (NYG)
7.02 Antonio Gates, TE (SD)
7.03 Koren Robinson, WR (SEA)
7.04 Charles Rogers, WR (DET)
7.05 Marcus Pollard, TE (IND)
7.06 Chris Brown, RB (TENN)
7.07 Isaac Bruce, WR (STL)
7.08 Jeff Wilkins, K (STL)
7.09 Warrick Dunn, RB (ATL)
7.10 Keenan McCardell, WR (TB)
7.11 Alge Crumpler, TE (ATL)
7.12 Jon Kitna, QB (CIN)

8.12 Carolina, DEF (CAR)
8.11 Philadelphia, DEF (PHI)
8.10 Tampa Bay, DEF (TB)
8.09 Brad Johnson, QB (TB)
8.08 Freddie Jones, TE (ARZ)
8.07 Julius Jones, RB (DAL)
8.06 Jacksonville, DEF (JAC)
8.05 Joey Harrington, QB (DET)
8.04 David Akers, K (PHI)
8.03 Roy Williams, WR (DET)
8.02 Josh McCown, QB (ARZ)
8.01 Jay Feely, K (ATL)

9.01 Larry Fitzgerald, WR (ARZ)
9.02 Quentin Griffin, RB (DEN)
9.03 Moe Williams, RB (MIN)
9.04 Lee Suggs, RB (CLE)
9.05 Brandon Lloyd, WR (SF)
9.06 Boo Williams, TE (NO)
9.07 Miami, DEF (MIA)
9.08 Travis Minor, RB (MIA)
9.09 Jeff Garcia, QB (CLE)
9.10 Correll Buckhalter, RB (PHI)
9.11 Ashley Lelie, WR (DEN)
9.12 Jim Kleinsasser, TE (MIN)

10.12 Jason Hanson, K (DET)
10.11 Jimmy Smith, WR (JAC)
10.10 Jason Elam, K (DEN)
10.09 Rod Smith WR (DEN)
10.08 Tommy Maddox, QB (PIT)
10.07 Byron Leftwich, QB (JAC)
10.06 Justin McCareins, WR (NYJ)
10.05 Jake Delhomme, QB (CAR)
10.04 Jake Plummer, QB (DEN)
10.03 Dallas Clark, TE (IND)
10.02 Donte Stallworth, WR (NO)
10.01 Deion Branch, WR (NE)

11.01 DeShaun Foster, RB (CAR)
11.02 Najeh Davenport, RB (GB)
11.03 Billy Cundiff, K (DAL)
11.04 Muhsin Muhammad, WR (CAR)
11.05 Antowain Smith, RB (TEN)
11.06 Martin Gramatica, K (TB)
11.07 Marcus Robinson, WR (MIN)
11.08 Bobby Engram, WR (SEA)
11.09 Keyshawn Johnson, WR (DAL)
11.10 Steven Jackson, RB (STL)
11.11 Willis McGahee, RB (BUF)
11.12 Drew Henson, QB (DAL)

12.12 Tyrone Wheatley, RB (OAK)
12.11 David Carr, QB (HOU)
12.10 Andre Davis, WR (CLE)
12.09 Emmitt Smith, RB (AZ)
12.08 Randy McMichael, TE (MIA)
12.07 Bubba Franks, TE (GB)
12.06 Rich Gannon, QB (OAK)
12.05 Tai Streets, WR (DET)
12.04 Kevin Dyson, WR (SD)
12.03 Vinnie Testaverde, QB (DAL)
12.02 Rashaun Woods, WR (SF)
12.01 Ron Dayne, RB (NYG)

13.01 St. Louis, DEF (StL)
13.02 Carson Palmer, QB (CIN)
13.03 Terry Glenn WR (DAL)
13.04 Seattle, DEF (SEA)
13.05 Matt Stover, K (BAL)
13.06 Denver, DEF (DEN)
13.07 Adam Vinatieri K (NE)
13.08 Kansas City, DEF (KC)
13.09 Desmond Clark TE (Da Bearsss)
13.10 Mark Brunell QB (WAS)

	12-08-2004 09:14									#354
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

1) gjramsey = 7. Ramsey's Razorbacks
2) Kalius = 1. Sarlat
3) SlowwHand = 12. Dallas Dwarf Tossers
4) Tuberski = 4. Billy's Boingers
5) Japher = 6. Flippin' Monkey Men
6) reismark = 10. Kyrandia Dragonhawks
7) Zopperoni = 2. Amsterdam Afros
8) Dissident = 8. Vegas Skullsmashers
9) -Jrabbit = 9. Cute Little Bunnies
10) Berzerker = 11. Berzerkers
11) Imran Siddiqui = 5. Georgia Gliders
12) Jac de Molay = 3. Fighting Emus


1.01 Priest Holmes, RB (KC)
1.02 LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (SD)
1.03 Edgerrin James, RB (IND)
1.04 Ahman Green, RB (GB)
1.05 Kevan Barlow, RB (SF)
1.06 Shaun Alexander, RB (SEA)
1.07 Deuce McAllister, RB (NO)
1.08 Peyton Manning, QB (IND)
1.09 Clinton Portis, RB (WAS)
1.10 Jamal Lewis, RB (BAL)
1.11 Randy Moss, WR (MIN)
1.12 Daunte Culpepper, QB (MIN)

2.12 Fred Taylor, RB (JAC)
2.11 Travis Henry, RB (BUF)
2.10 Marvin Harrison, WR (IND)
2.09 Torry Holt, WR (StL)
2.08 Marshall Faulk, RB (StL)
2.07 Domanick Davis, RB (HOU)
2.06 Terrell Owens, WR (PHI)
2.05 Matt Hasselbeck, QB (SEA)
2.04 Stephen Davis, RB (CAR)
2.03 Steve McNair, QB (TEN)
2.02 Corey Dillon, RB (NE)
2.01 Donovan McNabb, QB (PHI)

3.01 Chad Johnson, WR (CIN)
3.02 Michael Vick, QB (ATL)
3.03 Steve Smith, WR (CAR)
3.04 Tony Gonzalez, TE (KC)
3.05 Anquan Boldin, WR (ARI)
3.06 Rudi Johnson, RB (CIN)
3.07 Hines Ward, WR (PIT)
3.08 Brian Westbrook, RB (PHI)
3.09 Santana Moss, WR (NYJ)
3.10 Thomas Jones, RB (CHI)
3.11 Michael Bennett, RB (MIN)
3.12 T.J. Duckett, RB (ATL)

4.12 Derrick Mason, WR (TEN)
4.11 Trent Green, QB (KC)
4.10 Brett Favre, QB (GB)
4.09 Tiki Barber, RB (NYG)
4.08 Joe Horn, WR (NOS)
4.07 Laveranues Coles, WR (WAS)
4.06 Peerless Price, WR (ATL)
4.05 Curtis Martin, RB (NYJ)
4.04 Eric Moulds, WR (BUF)
4.03 Eddie George, RB (DAL)
4.02 Andre Johnson, WR (HOU)
4.01 Javon Walker, WR (GB)

5.01 Kevin Jones, RB (DET)
5.02 Marty Booker, WR (CHI)
5.03 Chris Chambers, WR (MIA)
5.04 Aaron Brooks, QB (NO)
5.05 Amani Toomer, WR (NYG)
5.06 Tom Brady, QB (NE)
5.07 Marc Bulger, QB (StL)
5.08 Peter Warrick, WR (CIN)
5.09 New England, DEF (NE)
5.10 Charlie Garner, RB (TB)
5.11 Darrell Jackson, WR (SEA)
5.12 Reggie Wayne, WR (IND)

6.12 Plaxico Burress, WR (PIT)
6.11 Duce Staley, RB (PIT)
6.10 Dante Hall, WR (KC)
6.09 Kellen Winslow, TE (CLE)
6.08 Baltimore, DEF (BAL)
6.07 Todd Heap, TE (BAL)
6.06 Jerry Porter, WR (OAK)
6.05 Minnesota, DEF (MIN)
6.04 Dallas, DEF (DAL)
6.03 Tennessee, DEF (TEN)
6.02 Mike Vanderjagt, K (IND)
6.01 Chad Pennington, QB (NYJ)

7.01 Jeremy Shockey, TE (NYG)
7.02 Antonio Gates, TE (SD)
7.03 Koren Robinson, WR (SEA)
7.04 Charles Rogers, WR (DET)
7.05 Marcus Pollard, TE (IND)
7.06 Chris Brown, RB (TENN)
7.07 Isaac Bruce, WR (STL)
7.08 Jeff Wilkins, K (STL)
7.09 Warrick Dunn, RB (ATL)
7.10 Keenan McCardell, WR (TB)
7.11 Alge Crumpler, TE (ATL)
7.12 Jon Kitna, QB (CIN)

8.12 Carolina, DEF (CAR)
8.11 Philadelphia, DEF (PHI)
8.10 Tampa Bay, DEF (TB)
8.09 Brad Johnson, QB (TB)
8.08 Freddie Jones, TE (ARZ)
8.07 Julius Jones, RB (DAL)
8.06 Jacksonville, DEF (JAC)
8.05 Joey Harrington, QB (DET)
8.04 David Akers, K (PHI)
8.03 Roy Williams, WR (DET)
8.02 Josh McCown, QB (ARZ)
8.01 Jay Feely, K (ATL)

9.01 Larry Fitzgerald, WR (ARZ)
9.02 Quentin Griffin, RB (DEN)
9.03 Moe Williams, RB (MIN)
9.04 Lee Suggs, RB (CLE)
9.05 Brandon Lloyd, WR (SF)
9.06 Boo Williams, TE (NO)
9.07 Miami, DEF (MIA)
9.08 Travis Minor, RB (MIA)
9.09 Jeff Garcia, QB (CLE)
9.10 Correll Buckhalter, RB (PHI)
9.11 Ashley Lelie, WR (DEN)
9.12 Jim Kleinsasser, TE (MIN)

10.12 Jason Hanson, K (DET)
10.11 Jimmy Smith, WR (JAC)
10.10 Jason Elam, K (DEN)
10.09 Rod Smith WR (DEN)
10.08 Tommy Maddox, QB (PIT)
10.07 Byron Leftwich, QB (JAC)
10.06 Justin McCareins, WR (NYJ)
10.05 Jake Delhomme, QB (CAR)
10.04 Jake Plummer, QB (DEN)
10.03 Dallas Clark, TE (IND)
10.02 Donte Stallworth, WR (NO)
10.01 Deion Branch, WR (NE)

11.01 DeShaun Foster, RB (CAR)
11.02 Najeh Davenport, RB (GB)
11.03 Billy Cundiff, K (DAL)
11.04 Muhsin Muhammad, WR (CAR)
11.05 Antowain Smith, RB (TEN)
11.06 Martin Gramatica, K (TB)
11.07 Marcus Robinson, WR (MIN)
11.08 Bobby Engram, WR (SEA)
11.09 Keyshawn Johnson, WR (DAL)
11.10 Steven Jackson, RB (STL)
11.11 Willis McGahee, RB (BUF)
11.12 Drew Henson, QB (DAL)

12.12 Tyrone Wheatley, RB (OAK)
12.11 David Carr, QB (HOU)
12.10 Andre Davis, WR (CLE)
12.09 Emmitt Smith, RB (AZ)
12.08 Randy McMichael, TE (MIA)
12.07 Bubba Franks, TE (GB)
12.06 Rich Gannon, QB (OAK)
12.05 Tai Streets, WR (DET)
12.04 Kevin Dyson, WR (SD)
12.03 Vinnie Testaverde, QB (DAL)
12.02 Rashaun Woods, WR (SF)
12.01 Ron Dayne, RB (NYG)

13.01 St. Louis, DEF (StL)
13.02 Carson Palmer, QB (CIN)
13.03 Terry Glenn WR (DAL)
13.04 Seattle, DEF (SEA)
13.05 Matt Stover, K (BAL)
13.06 Denver, DEF (DEN)
13.07 Adam Vinatieri K (NE)
13.08 Kansas City, DEF (KC)
13.09 Desmond Clark TE (CHI)
13.10 Mark Brunell QB (WAS)
13.11 Ryan Longwell K (GB)

	12-08-2004 09:15									#355
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Jac is up for 2... I'm going to bed, so I'll have to make any pick tomorrow .

	12-08-2004 11:33									#356
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

I'll be up in the moring to make my final pick. It's going to be a good one, just you watch.

	12-08-2004 12:35									#357
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quote: BTW, Anquan Boldin had arthroscopic surgery today and is expected to only miss 2-3 weeks.

Turns out it's worse than it was thought. It's a eight-to-twelve week injury.

Sucks for Japher.

	12-08-2004 17:17									#358
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Saw that this morning. I stand corrected.
I've got Boldin in my other league, so I feel your pain, Japher.

	12-08-2004 17:26									#359
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

Well since it is over 4 games, according to the rules he can switch him out for another player.

Oh, and Jac is up.

	12-08-2004 17:32									#360
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Japher, if you want Porter, take Brown and we'll do a trade...