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it is funny how eveywhere there are Blockbusters and Hollywood Vidoes but all I want is the small town video stores like in my home town


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Top films this year....

Hmmm..... that's hard. I liked Fahrenheit 911 for political reasons. Same for The Corporation.

Other than that, all the other films I've seen this year sucked. If there were any that didn't suck, they are so unmemorable that they must have sucked.

Return of the King was the last good film I saw.

I just went to BoxOfficeMojo and looked at the list of the 150 biggest grossing movies of 2004. Apart from a few documentaries I have seen, not one film I have seen out of the 150 I would class as anything other than shite.

What a depressing year for film. Hopefully Alexander will be good, but after the abortion that was Troy I'm not betting on it.

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On the original topics:

1. I don't really care on what medium a movie comes (DVD, VHS, DivX), I watch them all. It's about the movie, not the medium. Some of the best movies I saw recently happened to be on VHS (e.g. just last week I saw Cidade de Deus for the first time )

2. I strongly detest full-screen, though if I really want to see a movie I'll accept it. But whoever invented that horrible format should be taken out and shot


As for best movies of 2004, these are the movies I remember seeing in the cinema this year (some may be 2003 movies but were either released later in the Netherlands or I only saw them in 2004):

Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Shrek 2
Kill Bill Vol. 2
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Last Samurai
King Arthur
Spiderman 2
Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World
Haunted Mansion
Underworld
Paycheck
Ladykillers
Hidalgo
Starsky & Hutch
Shouf Shouf Habibi!
(Morrocan/Dutch movie)
Love Actually
(though I probably saw this one in late 2003, not quite sure)
Troy
Finding Nemo
Scary Movie 3
Van Helsing
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The Passion of the Christ




Not entirely surprisinlgy, I pretty much liked all of these movies (though Van Helsing was rather mediocre, but then again, I hadn't expected more) -- I'm pretty good at figuring out what's worth watching and what isn't beforehand. The only exception here is The Passion of the Christ, which is quite possibly The Worst Movie Ever. In fact, giving that one the title 'movie' is giving it too much credit IMNSHO. Then again, I knew that before I went there (I only went there to do someone else a favour who didn't want to go there alone but couldn't find anyone who wanted to go -- afterwards she understood why )

I'm very much looking forward to seeing Fahrenheit 9/11 next week, and in the long run Shark Tale and The Bourne Supremacy.

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Master and Commander was a good film, as was Return of the King. But they came out last year.

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Like I said, they were released later in the Netherlands, and I can't be arsed figuring out when all those movies were released in the US...

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To the questions asked.

1) Don't even have a VHS machine anymore, so that is an easy no.

2) Has to be in widescreen. Even with a 4:3 tv, I would watch in widescreen with the bars at top and bottom.

3) Netflix is great. I have been using them for about 4 years now.

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I have a question for everyone. What movie have they rented that they wished they had taken the time to see at the theaters?

A lot of people are putting down Kill Bill Vol 2. This was a surprise movie for me. I didn't think id like it but before Vol 2 came out I rented Vol 1 and was blown away and kicked myself for not seeing it at a theater which made me immeditaly go see Vol 2,

1) I rented barbershop on VHS awhile back. I have a DVD/VHS combo but I'm so addicted to special features that it's not even funny. A girl friend of mine says special features is a guy thing but I love them especially the ones for tv shows they put on DVD and extended verisons like LOTRs

2) I like widescreen better but sometimes I will get the fit to screen stuff if I cant find it any other way

3) Groundhog day is a great movie but it's a guy movie that chicks like.

4) Forgive my ignorance but what is netfilx?

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To the questions asked.

1) Don't even have a VHS machine anymore, so that is an easy no.

2) Has to be in widescreen. Even with a 4:3 tv, I would watch in widescreen with the bars at top and bottom.

3) Netflix is great. I have been using them for about 4 years now.


ARe you from Arkansas?

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Spray: www.netflix.com

$20.00 a month, unlimited movie rentals (though you're limited to 3 at a time), no late fees.

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Spray: www.netflix.com

$20.00 a month, unlimited movie rentals (though you're limited to 3 at a time), no late fees.


Outstanding

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Oh, I forgot: Free shipping.

http://www.netflix.com/LearnMore?hnjr=2

And it's actually $21.95/month. Expect this to increase.

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it is funny how eveywhere there are Blockbusters and Hollywood Vidoes but all I want is the small town video stores like in my home town


It's not like a restaraunt, where you can claim greater quality food - it's a movie rental, for god's sake! What's the difference.

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they had a greater selection, although you could not be sure that a just released movie was in (more different videos, less copies)


Really?

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and it was $2 for a new movie, and $1 for an older one, instead of this 4.50 ****


inflation

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1. I don't rent VHS anymore unless there is a movie I really want to see that I can't find on DVD.

2. I agree. Widescreen is the way to go. Full Screen is for heathens!

3. I don't use Netflix, but Blockbuster has a deal now where you spend $14.99 a month, and you get unlimited rentals. Now that I have a DVD Burner, I shall be renting a lot more movies.

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btw, good thread...

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3. I don't use Netflix, but Blockbuster has a deal now where you spend $14.99 a month, and you get unlimited rentals. Now that I have a DVD Burner, I shall be renting a lot more movies.


I have a blockbuster card but I didnt know about this deal. Of course I havent rented in like a month. It sounds like a cool deal.

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I have a question for everyone. What movie have they rented that they wished they had taken the time to see at the theaters?


Cidade De Deus -- Saw it just last week: brilliant movie, a bit like a Latino Godfather, only different I actually don't know why I didn't see this in the cinema, I probably just never noticed it (if it ever ran in my local cinema at all, until recently they weren't great with 'small' movies).

Le Fabuleux Destin d'Amélie Poulain -- I never even heard of this one until I saw it, and I actually didn't intend to get it but I got the wrong tape when renting something else. It completely took me by surprise, this movie is definitely in my personal top 10 of best movies of all times Afterwards when I asked others about it it turned out pretty much every movie buff I know had already seen it (and loved it) but apparently just never gotten around to mentioning it to me

IMO getting the wrong tape is actually one of the best things that can happen when renting movies -- I like to be taken by surprise from time to time (though if it's a bad movie I'll still want my money back )

Shaolin Soccer -- I actually got the DVD for this one while on vacation in Asia (yes it was a *legal* DVD, at least as far as I could tell ), about a year before it came out in European (and American) cinemas. Hilarious movie I considered seeing it again when it came out in the cinemas here but in the end I was too busy with other things and was low on cash.

Mystic River -- I had read only 1 review about this movie when it came out in cinemas and it was a bad review (probably the only bad review this movie ever got too ). After it went out of rotation, I started reading good reviews and in the end it proved to be one of the best movies of 2003 Incidentally, this movie also marked the last time I ever relied on press reviews to judge a movie (except for Jonathan Ross reviews)

Cruel Intentions -- I thought this was your typical chick-flick (what with winning the MTV award for Best Kiss and almost the entire cast being female and all), but I couldn't have been more wrong. Well, it probably was still a chick flick, but one that men can (thoroughly) enjoy as well. Oh, and that MTV award for Best Kiss? That was well-deserved


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3) Groundhog day is a great movie but it's a guy movie that chicks like.


Methinks it's a unisex flick

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I have a blockbuster card but I didnt know about this deal. Of course I havent rented in like a month. It sounds like a cool deal.
Yeah it's pretty new. I just found out about it not too long ago. I haven't gotten it yet, but once I get around to buying some writable DVD's, I'll start adding to my DVD library.

The more I rent, the ratio of amount spent per rental goes down.

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Good idea, Sava! (about the Blockbuster thing)

Yes, Kucinich, there was a time when there were plenty of local mom&pop video stores around who would rent you the things for $1 for 3 days, maybe going to $2 for new releases. What really killed the places, imho, was not Blockbuster (they've never beaten the locals on prices) but the advent of the DVD. All these small places had great selections of a clearly second-rate technology, and people quickly switched over - IIRC, at one time people were trumpeting that the DVD was the quickest-accepted new consumer product in history*. And while the small stores quickly switched over to DVD on their new releases, they still had a massive stock of quickly aging merchandise.

Also, DVD pricing didn't help either. For the past 5+ years there has been a pricing controversy between Wal-Mart and Blockbuster Video. BBV was helped in the VHS days by the typically high price for the tapes - usually new releases were priced in the $40-100 range, slowly coming down in price over the years. However when DVD's came out, Wal-Mart, using their newly found ability to play 800 pound gorilla wanting a seat, demanded that DVD's be priced to sell, including new releases. At first, BBV thought that, since they were already the leading home distribution outlet for films, they would be able to handle the upstart Wal-Mart at a time of their choosing. Alas, this didn't happen as DVD's soared in popularity, and Wal-Mart came to dominate the home movie market on a scale not even dreamed of by BBV - iirc, 1 of every 5 DVD sales occur at Wal-Mart or Sams Club, in contrast to BBV's hold of 8% of the DVD sales market.

The studios are unwilling to go with the higher pricing model anymore either, as they are now counting on the tens, hundreds of millions earned from DVD sales to put their films in the black. I'm pretty sure that Spider-Man 2, a film that has yet to earn back it's $250,000,000 price tag, was financed to the amount it was because the studio had an eye towards DVD sales as a means to offset the total cost of the film.

*Now the iPod people might make the same claim...

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ARe you from Arkansas?


Graduated from the University. Went to HS in Oklahoma, couldn't wait to leave.

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they had a greater selection, although you could not be sure that a just released movie was in (more different videos, less copies)


Really?

quote:
and it was $2 for a new movie, and $1 for an older one, instead of this 4.50 ****


inflation


yes, they had way more movies than all 4 local HVs and BBs (just VHS, like JohnT said)

It's still $2 (well, was last year), I just no longer live there (nor visit)

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-I rent VHS if they are out of DVD. Sometimes, for movies that are out for a while I try to get the VHS. Nothing is worse than getting home, got the popcorn popped, and settle down in front of the TV with the sweetie and my wife to watch a movie only to find that the idiots who rented the DVD before you had some stupid kid that thought the DVD was a coaster, or even worse, an art medium for finger paints.

-My wife hates widescreen. She agrees that if we had a bigger TV (we have a 27inch) or a letterbox TV than it would be fine. I don't mind, but Last of the Mohicians looks awful on widescreen. All movies should come with the choice.

-Never used netflix, probably never will. Going to the video store is fun, half the time I end up renting something I never would of otherwised only to find out it wasn't that bad; i.e. The Peacemaker.

-Groundhog day is a romantic comedy, but is probably the most manly of all of them.

-I haven't really seen a whole lot of movies at the theater this year. The last movie I saw was Hellboy, and before that Big Fish... I normally rent as wifey and I don't feel the need to drop $40/movie (most have my popcorn!!!)...

However, I really want to see Spiderman 2 on the big screen.

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Graduated from the University. Went to HS in Oklahoma, couldn't wait to leave.


It's not that bad compared to Oklahoma is it

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Last movie I saw in theater was RotK. I wanted to see Master and Commander with my Dad, but it never came to the local theater!

I plan to see Shrek2 in the cheap theater.

I have watched letterbox movies on my 13" TV. I hate pan and scan that much.

And, yes, GHD is a guy movie that chicks like.

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It's not that bad compared to Oklahoma is it


I thought that might get mis-interpreted.

Ok was bad, and I fled that state to go to school up in the hills.

NW Ark is the nice part of the state. Anything south and east of Little Rock is a flat waste-land.

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I never rent movies.

I've only been to 6 movies this year, and only 1 of those actually was a 2004 movie, but I'll list all 6 anyway:

1. Zatôichi - I can't help it, I love Takeshi Kitano, and this is yet another masterpiece. I love how rhythm/music permeates the movie.
2. Kill Bill Vol. 2 -
3. 21 Grams
4. Kops
5. Once Upon a Time in Mexico - , Johnny Depp
6. Lord of the Rings 3 - Possibly the worst of the three, oh well...

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I actually liked that one, but yeah, Johnny Depp was the best thing in it.

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Yes, you're probably right. It certainly wasn't nearly as bad as LOTR. But it was nowhere near as good as Desperado either.

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Desperado rocked though... El Mariachi was good as was Once Upon A Time...

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Striker, I scoff at your choice when Smokey & The Bandit 3 is clearly the standard of excellence for the past 25 years of cinematic effort.

On to the actual questions...

I prefer widescreen greatly, and have been known to laugh deliriously and unrepentantly at friends who tell me "I just always feel like I'm missing part of the movie that way." That said, I'm not so hung up on it that I'll let it ruin an otherwise good movie. I guess that's a product of at one point in life having to build my movie collection through bad copies of TBS theater and USA Up All Night.

My top movies of the year? King Arthur.

Groundhog Day? As someone said earlier, it's a Bill Murray comedy. That's all we really need to know.

Kuciwalker, the mom & pop video stores back in the day tended to have more B-movie cult classic stuff that you may never have heard of than Blockbuster, Hollywood or Movie Gallery, rather than just 9 million copies of Independence Day. Although I did find a copy of G.I. Bro, starring Fred "The Hammer" Williamson, at MG's warehouse in my hometown.

 
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