03-08-2004 07:01									#1
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Anyone else playing the Warhammer: Dawn of War beta?


I've been trying out the tutorial for a while now, seems like a decent RTS 'though I was hoping for it to take a more tactical aproach like Total War. I just got my CD key tonight, though, so I'll start playing multiplayer tommorow... the tutorial probably isn't a very good representation.

	03-08-2004 07:32									#2
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I want a computer version of the actual game.

	03-08-2004 15:27									#3
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I'd have been happy if I got the Beta

Can you spill some beans, Ludd?

-Jam

	03-08-2004 18:20									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker I want a computer version of the actual game.

Starfleet Battles (a much better game) didn't even get that.

	03-08-2004 23:39									#5
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Yeah, more info please GL.

	04-08-2004 00:21									#6
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If you want info, ask a question.

quote: I want a computer version of the actual game.

I doubt that will ever happen, or that if it does you'll have to buy digital models or some crap, like they've done with Magic the Gathering. But if they did make a computer game that followed the rules as closely as possible and made it easily moddable - something to WH40K as NWN is to D&D - it would be awsome.

	04-08-2004 00:39									#7
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Can you give me a copy of this beta?

	04-08-2004 01:26									#8
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quote: If you want info, ask a question.

List of all units for a start.

-Jam

	04-08-2004 01:40									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Can you give me a copy of this beta?

There's a copy on eDonkey, I know. But you need a CD key to play it multiplayer, and all there is aside from multiplayer is a tutorial. The copy on eDonkey is also the original beta build (current is 1.3) so it's a bit out of date, and you need a third party program to extract the files from the exe without a CD-key, because it's also neccisary for a proper installation.

quote: List of all units for a start.

I haven't actually seen all the units yet, but next time I play I'll try to make note of as many as I can for you.


But untill then, I'll describe how 'units' work. You don't build them individually like in most RTSs, but instead build a squad that consists of around 4 units. You can reinforce the squad and increase it's numbers for a small amount of resources (I think you can increase the numbers to about 10, although I didn't count), and you can also choose to upgrade units within the squad - 1 'hero' and 3 units with special weapons (such as flame flowers, rocket launchers, or heavy rifles) are allowed in each squad.

	04-08-2004 01:56									#10
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Here's a screenshot of the Army Painter.

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	04-08-2004 06:09									#11
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OMFG that is sweet - a full army painter with a custom pallette *worships the designers*

And the squad thing is what attracts me to the game, as well as it being W40K, of course

-Jam

	04-08-2004 06:18									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski OMFG that is sweet - a full army painter with a custom pallette *worships the designers* And the squad thing is what attracts me to the game, as well as it being W40K, of course -Jam

You can presumably import custom badges and banners aswell. Note that it's just a general colour scheme that you design (primary, secondary and trim colour mainly), and is applied to all your units. This is what a predator looks like under that same colour scheme.

	04-08-2004 06:23									#13
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There's really great smoke effect coming out of the exhaust on that predator by the way, but you can't tell from the screen shot. Here's a Chaos Marine

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	04-08-2004 08:07									#14
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I've got to get this game just to stare at the screen

-Jam

	04-08-2004 08:12									#15
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*drool*

	04-08-2004 10:49									#16
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Starfleet Battles (a much better game) didn't even get that.

ADB has copyright issues wrt SFB.

	04-08-2004 10:51									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker *drool*

Drool is playing F&E on SFB scale.

	04-08-2004 18:17									#18
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Here's a list of the Ork units


Slugga Boy Squad: Basic infantry. They have a pistol in one hand and an axe in the other, they charge firing the pistol untill they get close enough to start choppin'


Shoota Boy Squad: Long range infantry. They stay back and fire into the battle, they're innacurate but can do alot of damage in large numbers.

Tank Bustaz: Anti-tank infantry, obviously. I haven't really seen them in action but I think they start with grenades and can be upgraded to having rocket launchers.

Storm Boyz: Flying Infantry. I haven't really seen them in action yet.

Nob Squad: Heavy infantry. Similiar to the Slugga Boyz, but tougher in every way. Can be given Power Klawz

Mad Dok: Support unit that you can attach to a squad, increases regen rate and has 'fightin' juice' that stops units form dying for a short period of time.

Big Mek: Commander that can be attached to a squad. Very powerful melee abilities and can teleport his squad.

War Boss: Commander that can be attached to a squad. Very powerful in combat, makes units around him stronger, and has a warcry ability that boosts units around him.


Wartrukk: Light transport vehicle.

Wartrak: Light assault vehicle.

Killa Kan: Walking vehicle, equiped with saws and can be upgraded to have anti-vehicle rockets. Good in close quarters against building and vehicles.

Looted Tank: Acts as artillery

Squiggoth: A large elephant like lizzard that acts as both a weapon platform and a unit transport. Can rampage and toss infantry around.

	04-08-2004 18:54									#19
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Do red Ork units move faster?

	04-08-2004 20:13									#20
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All Orks are equal.



here's a shot of an army of chaos marines and defilers coming across a bridge to an Ork base.

	04-08-2004 22:59									#21
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Damn. I can't buy a game that spells it 'ork'.

	05-08-2004 03:43									#22
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Its the official spelling for the space versions of Orcs.

Looks VERY sweet though.

-Jam

	05-08-2004 05:11									#23
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Damn. I can't buy a game that spells it 'ork'.

	05-08-2004 21:52									#24
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Here's some Marines fighting their way through a choke point, with eldar (and a couple chaos marines - both allies of mine) on the defending side. Shortly after I took this I came in with my Killa Kans which slowly shambled their way through the crowd of marines and systematically shredded their tanks to bits while everything they shot at them bounced off the Kans. Killa Kans are awsome.

	05-08-2004 22:10									#25
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The graphics look a bit old, but the game looks fun.

	06-08-2004 05:34									#26
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Lots of noobers that can't play. I mean, I can count the number of multiplayer games I've played on one hand. But people surrendering before I even get to attack them? Jeez.

	06-08-2004 05:54									#27
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OMFG, I thought real gamers don't play the 3D games. For shame. Looking at graphics instead of playing nethack?

	06-08-2004 06:46									#28
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Is that sarcasm directed at me?

	06-08-2004 06:56									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Felch OMFG, I thought real gamers don't play the 3D games. For shame. Looking at graphics instead of playing nethack?

Graphics add atmosphere. Atmosphere is important.

Sadly, the in-game graphics remind me of Force Commander.

	06-08-2004 07:06									#30
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I haven't played force commander but the graphics really are pretty good. The animations and effects are what trully make it, I think, and screen shots don't do that justice. There aren't any graphics settings yet, either.


It's the only 3D RTS game I've played where I felt the 3D graphics added something to it. Great atmosphere, good terrain elevation (I'm not certain that there is any 'high ground' advantange, however) , obstacles and structures, and best of all.... soldiers flying through the air in the wake of an explosion.

Having free control of the camera and being able to pan down into the battle as if you where on the ground is also nice, although it would be better if the sight range was increased. Nothing like seeing those big eldar walkers (don't know their name) towering over the infantry to put their size into perspective.



EDIT: I just looked up some force commander screenshots. Not even close.

EDIT2: And the models in the army painter are the same as they are in the game, by the way...

Last edited by General Ludd on 06-08-2004 at 07:14