21-08-2004 03:55									#121
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iirc the capital always produces at least 4 units, so this is wierd.

if the turn doesn't come soon, i'm off to bed. but jshelr seems to be without game CD (:cough: patch :cough, so i guess tonights round wouldn't continue anyhow

	21-08-2004 15:23									#122
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i have the cd for this game. it's the cd for ptw that i stupidly forgot.

	21-08-2004 17:19									#123
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oh... sorry...
but i didn't recieve the save anyway yet. andy is probably off with his brother

	22-08-2004 19:14									#124
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should we explore to see what's going on or are the troops sleeping it off somewhere

	23-08-2004 14:18									#125
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530bc to jshelr

andy apologises for his current internet problems. he sent his saves on friday but non arrived. and he can't post over here either...

	23-08-2004 18:09									#126
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A border dispute has arisen between the honorable Dutch and the Maya. It concerns the placement of the iron city Harlem, which is within the Mayan sphere of influence, but settled by the Dutch after diplomatic agreement from the Maya.

The Dutch settled further up the pennisula than the Maya agreed to allow.

Further, Mayan attempts to negotiate a 20-turn peace have not met with success. So, the iron-for-peace aspect of the deal that appealed to our lazy military leaders no longer looks important.

Still, we regard the dispute as a minor matter and hope it won't grow into a major war.

If the Dutch will give the town to the Maya, the Maya will allow the iron flow to continue for a modest price.

Sent to Alex.

	23-08-2004 19:33									#127
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Such fuss over some iron! You need a vacation. Come to Aruba and relaaax!

510 sent.

	23-08-2004 20:46									#128
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when i go to aruba, i end up at a casino, trying to count cards. then a refugee from the Russian mafia always sits next to me and begins to bet stacks of 10 $25 chips, forcing me to take another drink......

	23-08-2004 21:08									#129
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quote: Originally posted by jshelr A border dispute has arisen between the honorable Dutch and the Maya. It concerns the placement of the iron city Harlem, which is within the Mayan sphere of influence, but settled by the Dutch after diplomatic agreement from the Maya. The Dutch settled further up the pennisula than the Maya agreed to allow. Further, Mayan attempts to negotiate a 20-turn peace have not met with success. So, the iron-for-peace aspect of the deal that appealed to our lazy military leaders no longer looks important. Still, we regard the dispute as a minor matter and hope it won't grow into a major war. If the Dutch will give the town to the Maya, the Maya will allow the iron flow to continue for a modest price. Sent to Alex.

yet another misunderstanding... and it took you nearly 20 turns to notice this??? did you have to wait until i rushed the harbour??????????

and about the rolling 20-turn peace treaty: i thought we had agreed on that a long time ago!

anyway, netherlands will give in to this bullying trusting that the mayan will keep their promise: iron for a modest price. this of course means, that iron gets traded and isn't just cancelled because of war


at this point i'd also like to publicly express my disapproval of the misleadings and misinformation being done in this game. i have been left out of the loop several times in tech trades and agreements have "conveniently" been misunderstood. though (so far) no promises have been broken, i still think it a very dirty style of playing

games like these make me dislike multiplaying for it's not the civ3-skills that count anymore but just literary and convincing things.

	24-08-2004 09:54									#130
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to absentdog

Still being shorted on income...

	24-08-2004 12:06									#131
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Back on the boards gents.

quote: Originally posted by sabrewolf this of course means, that iron gets traded and isn't just cancelled because of war

that's got me scared. the only other person you're likely to start a war with is me!!

Jshelr, unless you want to see the Dutch running rampant all over our continent, don't agree to supply them iron in the outbreak of war!

quote: at this point i'd also like to publicly express my disapproval of the misleadings and misinformation being done in this game. i have been left out of the loop several times in tech trades and agreements have "conveniently" been misunderstood. though (so far) no promises have been broken, i still think it a very dirty style of playing

There has not been any dirty play. In fact you have so far broken 2 deals with me in this game Mr Sabrewolf, and you don't hear me moaning, so lets have a bit less throwing of the rattle!

--> sabrewolf

	24-08-2004 12:59									#132
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510bc and the city of haarlem to the bully


and a correction: i did NOT brake a deal, andy! i delayed monarchy for a clarification. it could have been just 1 or 2 turns, but i didn't get any clear answer.

and misleading and misinformation IS dirty play. of course you woundn't think so, because you used it in ironciver ("oh, i'm just scouting the area, just ignore my scout" and then pillaging the iron)

	24-08-2004 17:47									#133
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We all need a copy of Kant's Nichomachean ethics

(all spelling should be considered likely wrong until I get back to my dictionary)

IMO, the behavior regarding Monarchy was very off putting and the Dutch did build their iron town further up the pennisula than the Maya had agreed.

The delay of Monarchy created a need for the rest of us to go into anarchy late, while the Dutch were able to attack while in Monarchy. Very worrying.

Anyway, the harbor did not survive the gift of the iron city to the Maya It will take a while to connect the iron to the trade network. As soon as that has taken place, iron will be offered on the terms discussed.

sent to the amused alexman

	24-08-2004 19:18									#134
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Amused is the right word.
Feeling left out is another way to put it.

490 sent.

	24-08-2004 19:55									#135
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I want the head of whoever's skimming from my coffers!

	24-08-2004 20:51									#136
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quote: Originally posted by alexman Amused is the right word. Feeling left out is another way to put it.

then maybe you shouldn't wait for modern armour and send over your tanks ... i have some spearmen, so i still have a chance against tanks

	24-08-2004 23:01									#137
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--> sabrewolf

	25-08-2004 01:06									#138
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490bc to jshelr

	25-08-2004 02:06									#139
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The only Tanks we have in Aruba are for diving.

470 sent.

	25-08-2004 02:11									#140
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Divi Divi -- sent to Alexman earlier

	25-08-2004 07:23									#141
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And the income suddenly starts to balance out...

	25-08-2004 11:38									#142
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Onwards

	25-08-2004 14:35									#143
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470bc to jshelr

	25-08-2004 15:09									#144
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sent to alexman

	26-08-2004 16:11									#145
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sorry guys, i'll be missing this session due to computer problems

	26-08-2004 17:08									#146
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i think yesterday's save misfired anyway since Alexman didn't play it. i've resent and will post.

Attachment: jshelr of the maya, 450 bc.sav
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	26-08-2004 17:10									#147
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i got 450bc from andy this morning, just couldn't play it...

	26-08-2004 19:03									#148
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Yes, I sent 450 BC already (22 hours ago). Sorry for not posting. Somehow I forgot.

	26-08-2004 20:50									#149
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sent 10 hours ago, after which I fell asleep at the keyboard...

BTW- I've got our big local flatball tournament this weekend and might not make my turns promptly, so hopefully the attackdog will just put me out of my misery before then...

	27-08-2004 01:06									#150
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I haven't received any saves since 450 BC I sent this morning.

Rommel, I was waiting for the cultural boarders to grow (4 more turns I think) so I could take the city rather than just destroy it. Sorry it's been tedious for you - if it really is not cool then tell me and I'll just end it next turn.

I could really use that city though!