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Ljube is offline Ljube
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OK Beta, I know this is a silent PBEM and I shouldn't post anything but 'sent' here, but I am compelled to ask the following question: How do I make threats?

If this should be considered a normal single player game albeit a more challenging one, I must be able to make threats.

Certain player is currently at the mercy of my numerous soldiers. Now I can either destroy him utterly or force him to give me something in return for peace. Please tell me Beta how I can do that.


1950 BC to Rommel2D.

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Ljube, if you're already wiping someone out with your army, what further threat do you wish to make?

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Hmm, sometimes a threat can be more powerful than its realisation. This means I can strike, but I can also refrain from doing so. However, concessions are expected as a reward for my clemency.

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If you have overwhelming force and are in a position to strike, your opponent can see them, right? If he refuses to make or answer a diplomatic offer at that point, he's destined to be eliminated from the gene pool anyway, so just go ahead and get it over with...

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For constant trespassing and lack of proper respect for our Emperor, war declared on Korea. One Korean conscript warrior attacked by one Chinese vet archer. The battle took place on the hill just south of Beijing. Korean warrior dismissed without any losses. On other front, one Chinese regular warrior destroyed the empty city of Pyongyang.


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Now that wasn't very silent...

I think this is a seperate point from what Ljube mentioned previously- battle reports. I see where a simple fact-only (no smilies even ;-) battle report could work with a silent game, but only if done by email between the involved parties.

I'd just as soon keep it completely silent. What does everyone think?

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Yes, two things which are present in a single player game but absent from the silent PBEM as strictly defined by Beta (this thread will only allow "sent to ABC"): Threats and battle reports.


I think both should be posted here. I thought the main reason for silent PBEMs was to avoid off game agreements i.e. ganging up on people. I see no reason why battle reports or threats should be banned in this thread.

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For constant trespassing and lack of proper respect for our Emperor, war declared on Korea.


WTF

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I'm easy...I'll throw my hat in with the majority concerning Battle Reports.

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Yes, two things which are present in a single player game but absent from the silent PBEM as strictly defined by Beta (this thread will only allow "sent to ABC"): Threats and battle reports.


I think both should be posted here. I thought the main reason for silent PBEMs was to avoid off game agreements i.e. ganging up on people. I see no reason why battle reports or threats should be banned in this thread.

Well, I was waiting to see Beta's response...

I completely disagree that this thread should be used for anything except 'sent' reports and other admin related discussion;

a) Explicit threats are a minor part of single player games. I consider it micromanagement and only attempt it if in a dire pinch. YMMV, but what you posted above is alot closer to role-playing than the "give tribute or die" option in SP diplomacy.

b) Mandatory battle reports do not belong in a tracking thread. If I attack an oppontent, why should I have to give every other player an account of the location and condition of my troops? This goes against the most basic principle of strategy wargaming.

I wouldn't mind doing either of these via private email, but we're probably better off at this point keeping it simple and leaving everything silent across the board. I see the main purpose of a silent game to be to entirely avoid the messy gray areas of human to human diplomacy like this altogether.

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OK, no role playing and no posting whatsoever in this thread from now on.

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sent for real this time...

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