13-08-2004 22:33									#31
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quote: Originally posted by barbeerhj Dissident I have a question regarding the minimod you used for the last game. I think you used the SnOOpy(G or X) minimod, if this is correct, where did you find one that is current with C3C? The reason I ask is that I love the graphics on that mod, but I dislike not being able to see any of the new nations on it. -Ron

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...&threadid=68702

interesting note about the installation. he says to play it as civ content. But that's the same as playing a scenario right? I manually installed the files in the art/graphics folder or whatever. So I don't have to click on civ-content when I start a game.

	14-08-2004 01:58									#32
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Dissident

Thank you very much for giving me this link!

Indeed, after seeing the Mayan nation on that picture, I instantly became curious on where you got.

-Ron

	14-08-2004 05:55									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...&threadid=68702 interesting note about the installation. he says to play it as civ content. But that's the same as playing a scenario right? I manually installed the files in the art/graphics folder or whatever. So I don't have to click on civ-content when I start a game.

Yes, that's playing it as a scenario. The idea is to leave the original graphics intact in case you ever want to go back.

I did what you did, though

	14-08-2004 06:56									#34
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maya are pretty cool. But I dislike early uu's now (when I first started playing I love them). It wasn't easy getting a golden age. I built the great wall, but didn't get it. And getting wonders on monarch level has been a problem for me. I barely managed to defeate an ancient cavalry with a few of my spear guys (I can't remember the mayan uu name )

	14-08-2004 07:04									#35
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For full effect, you have to use them to kill tons of barbs for free workers.

	14-08-2004 07:45									#36
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It is the Jav Thrower. The Mayans make a good civ for Demi/Deity on a huge map. (IMO) since you will not be triggering a GA with wonders early in the game and you do not have to use the UU against the AI, but can use it on barbs.

If you have a close civ, it makes use of the UU more likely. At sid I prefer to use commercial civs to start with alphabet.

	14-08-2004 08:09									#37
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And why would that be so vmxa?

-Ron

	14-08-2004 08:37									#38
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Because closer civ = earlier war.

	14-08-2004 09:19									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker For full effect, you have to use them to kill tons of barbs for free workers.

I did feel special having barbarian slaves . savages.

	14-08-2004 21:36									#40
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quote: Originally posted by barbeerhj And why would that be so vmxa? -Ron

As Kuciwalker said, if they are close you will be fighting sooner. If you are playing at monarch or lower, you can probably hold them off without using the JT.

At any levl over emperor, you probably will face too many units to skip the UU. If you could avoid combat until you had swords/horses (if you had the resources) then it could be done.


Also at the first levles, if you triggered a GA right away, it is no big deal. Yes it is a waste, but you can afford it. As you move up in difficulty, it gets to be more painful to burn the GA.

	15-08-2004 00:01									#41
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Is it even possible to win civ vmxa1?

-Ron

	15-08-2004 00:01									#42
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AH !

I meant "sid" instead of "civ"

Sorry for the typo

	15-08-2004 07:21									#43
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Yes it has been done by many players. I have one posted in the sid thread and several others do as well.

You can find some real extreme examples over at CFC in the HOF forum. One fun read is SirPlebs.

Those games are a lot of fun, but take a lot of time. One of my early games that I still remember was a loss to the AI on culture, just as I was finally taking out some civs. I learned a few things from it though.

	15-08-2004 07:50									#44
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Wasn't there one guy who modded PtW to be Sid-level and basically pwned?