11-08-2004 01:14									#1
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	11-08-2004 01:55									#4
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	15-08-2004 05:52									#5
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2127 update:

Population dropped to 6, meaning that they have completed a Colony Pod

Are still lacking:

• Applied Physics
  
• Doctrine Mobility
  
• Doctrine Flexibility
  
• Hive Comm Frequency
  
• University Comm Frequency
  
• Peacekeepers' Comm Frequency

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	18-08-2004 00:52									#6
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2128 update:

No changes to previous year (thus colony pod still in transit)

	20-08-2004 18:53									#7
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2129 update:

Population grew to 8, suggesting a new base has been founded and the original base has grown its pop to 3 from 2.

(this has somewhat surprised me - I'll revisit the whole Gaian growth scenario in a spreadsheet later today)

	21-08-2004 09:13									#8
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Well - this is the only progression that I can fit to the facts:

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	05-10-2004 17:35									#9
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We've now met the Gaians, so our operations either need to be even more covert - or possibly completely transparent (if we pact with them)

(Note that this is all that I sent to them (pic wise) - if they don't know that there is a monolith there then we have a slight information advantage - (as well as a blocker in that rover)

Information is power

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	08-10-2004 03:13									#10
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The damage on that worm does back up the claim by the Gaians that they've won battles against Yang and that Yang is not a threat to them. I'd imagine that their bases are still a good way off from the contact point and the worm was on a mission of exploration. This makes the island chain a good choke point for land invasions, which the AI is so fond of.

	09-10-2004 00:14									#12
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I see they have completed The Weather Paradigm (PlanetVoice issue #7)

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How many turns did it take them to complete it? Any estimate? did they just come up with a ****load of crawlers and rushed it in a few turns?

	09-10-2004 02:25									#14
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Can be done in 1 turn by six regular crawlers plus a few (30 to 50 ec's) or 7 crawlers with a couple of rows surplus (Just scenario-tested it)

They started it in 2140 and completed the next year (1 turn)

	01-12-2004 09:05									#15
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What we know of their territory - 2149 (not much - bases indicated)

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quote: Posted by bin travkin in the general turnplaying thread Gaians ask extension due to very serious issue this turn (see details in our private forum), Snowflake pmed.

Hmm. I wonder what that might be? Hive acitivty? They've met Morgan?

	15-01-2005 10:31									#17
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And speaking of which (the Gaians) - we still don't know much more than we did six turns ago:

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	01-03-2005 12:23									#18
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Here's what we know in 2161 re: the Gaians

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	03-05-2005 23:33									#19
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I see (2169) that the Gaians have changed their research from Env econ (which they now have) to Neural grafting.

I'm assuming it's a leapfrog with Morgan who gave them EE2 for them to change (although I could see biocenters being on their "must have" list for the moralle boost to ground troops and cycle boosts for mindworms, so they may have just discovered EE2 on their own, and changed. I doubt it, though)

	06-05-2005 07:30									#20
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Hmm, I see three possible reactions to the Gaians-Morganites acquiring Neural Grafting soon:

• We tell them we'll research Neural Grafting ourselves in two years, and ask whether they wouldn't be interested in a leapfrog.
  
• We switch research to something else than Neural Grafting after receiving Cyberethics, and trade for it with the Gaians-Morganites later.
  
• We build the Planetary Datalinks after receiving Cyberethics, and try to get Neural Grafting (and other techs in the future) that way.

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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Hmm, I see three possible reactions to the Gaians-Morganites acquiring Neural Grafting soon: [*]We build the Planetary Datalinks after receiving Cyberethics, and try to get Neural Grafting (and other techs in the future) that way. [/list]

Me like very much!

The Plantary Datalinks are pretty cheap too as I recall, a fungal gin freight and an upgraded crawler or two should be enough and still leave us with plenty of ammo to build at least one more SP.

I've never had any use for the PD against AI:s, but against 3 human factions it suddenly becomes very important.

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quote: Originally posted by Maniac [*]We build the Planetary Datalinks after receiving Cyberethics, and try to get Neural Grafting (and other techs in the future) that way.

Hehe, and I dropped writing a post about probe actions in preparations for getting Cyberethics a few days ago. I guess I should have written it after all. With our still weak economy, and a possible alliance against us (i.e. tech-starving) building, this sounds like a very good idea.

Snoddasmannen, the use against the AI is to stop them from ever getting back in the tech race.

	06-05-2005 22:08									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Hmm, I see three possible reactions to the Gaians-Morganites acquiring Neural Grafting soon:

technically, there is a 4th ...........

we steal it from either the G's or the M's

I think we need it (to get to MMI and the Cyborg Factory) sooner than building the PDL and getting it that way

(Altho I agree that we should go for the PDL as well as the CF - that way we'll at least keep current on techs that the others jointly share - effectively puts us in a better position than the Angels - they need infiltration on the 3 that have the tech - we don't with the PDL)

So startt planning for an instabuild of the PDL in 2171

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quote: Originally posted by Googlie we steal it from either the G's or the M's

The commanding officer of the Crypteia has spoken.

quote: Originally posted by Googlie So startt planning for an instabuild of the PDL in 2171

Sounds great. This project will nullify a big part of any economy advantage the others might have on us.

	26-05-2005 01:12									#25
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A question:
How come the Gaians (a building faction) having built the Weather Paradigm seem so underdevelopped (from what I see) compared with the other factions?
Bases at size 3, land pods not popped, no visible terraforming...

Is it just me or is it real? Is it a consequence of their war against the Hive?
Something else?

	26-05-2005 02:46									#26
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Too much treehugging?

More seriously, I have no idea. They were already like this when I joined the game. Must have been some serious trouble long ago or serious mismanagement all the time.

	26-05-2005 05:10									#27
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Well, we believe that they lost a colony pod to a mindworm (!!) in turn 2 or 3 or so, which gave them 2/3rds the potential of the rest of us right off the bat.

Apart from that, I don't know why they are so behind