14-08-2004 00:43									#1
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How do you improve it? What if a faction like the believers put a unit onto your territory and refuses to move it?

	14-08-2004 00:50									#2
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Well, a lot of times if some other faction puts a unit and you *really* want it out...you'd have to attack it.

	14-08-2004 01:04									#3
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Integrity should improve slowly with time if you don't do anything dishonorable.

If the Believers have a unit you want to get rid of:

Demand they withdraw it (no penalty, might not work, might cause war)
Have them declare war on you (no integrity penalty)
Get someone else to ask you to declare war on the Believers (small penalty)
Probe it (no penalty, IIRC, especially with total thought control)
Get native life to kill it (no penalty)
Help a pactmate kill it (no penalty)
Lower it into the sea (no penalty)
Attack it directly (substantial penalty)
Nuke it (huge penalty)

Keep in mind you can also try to herd the unit by restricting its movement with ZoC. If it's just in your territory, don't worry about it, you can handle a stray unit in the event of sudden war. Just make sure it can't take a base and that you can kill it on short notice.

	14-08-2004 03:30									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Chaos Theory Integrity should improve slowly with time if you don't do anything dishonorable.

Confirming that. If so then I really like the game.

	14-08-2004 03:42									#5
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Launching 12 planet busters is not what you do if you want to be considered noble.

	14-08-2004 03:53									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Chaos Theory *** If the Believers have a unit you want to get rid of: *** Probe it (no penalty, IIRC, especially with total thought control) ***

Can you do this with the Belivers?


I think you can perhaps later on in the game if you are playing SMAX, but with SMAC or early/mid SMAX you can't.


Mead

	14-08-2004 05:52									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Whoha Launching 12 planet busters is not what you do if you want to be considered noble.

Listen, I meant that I can attack mariam's units when she dosen't move them out of my territory!

	14-08-2004 06:34									#8
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Miriam is fully vulnerable to probes unless she's also running Fundy. In SMAX, even if she is running fundy, enhanced probe teams can mind control, albeit with difficulty.

	14-08-2004 08:43									#9
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quote: Originally posted by grobnok Listen, I meant that I can attack mariam's units when she dosen't move them out of my territory!

I was joking, just attack it, integrity isnt all that important. Provoking Miriam to war shouldn't be hard though, just don't give in to her demands, run knowledge and democracy,etc.

	14-08-2004 21:56									#10
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One further consideration when the AI has a unit in your territory is information. Each move it makes discloses more of you map. The AI will routinely download its map to any Pact-mate, thus giving you position away if you are in a PBEM. So think twice before letting the AI roam around freely.

	14-08-2004 22:18									#11
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You can box in a non-hostile unit pretty easily with 2 or 3 of your own. I'm not too worried about an AI revealing more of my map, as a human opponent, once he finds out where any part of my empire is, knows enough to get the rest himself. On the other hand, if you can take out the offending unit without causing an incident, before it gets near any of your bases, your opponent may not suspect your location.