14-08-2004 05:38									#1
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SP discussion

Ok guys focus.

The Morgans have got Wealth (Ind Auto): good on them. It will now be a race for an SP or two..

WP and HGP cost 200 mins. In the parallel game to this (the While we are waiting game), Morgan snagged HGP as a prelude to the PTS. The DA(us) snagged the WP. However in this game I think we are not far behind tech wise, so we have a wider option.

Now the interesting thing in the previous ACDG was that the Hive, prior to the discovery of Ind Auto was building formers like crazy. So when they discovered Ind Auto they didn't have to wait for Ind Auto/ crawlers to cash in, they cashed in their formers (ie disband). Not sure how much for, though, whether full price or 50%.

That's why I have been advocating building formers close to KP. Also the AA when cashed in against an early SP amounts to a very tidy sum indeed, depending on SE setting, I suppose.

So the question is: do we go for an SP now and if so which one.
One that we want or one we would quite like but that also spoils the other factions. Oh yeah can we actually acquire it?

	14-08-2004 10:49									#2
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I'm all for the AA being used to hurry an SP. Sofar our options are WP, PTS and VW of course. All three have their merit.

	14-08-2004 17:04									#3
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I tend to lean towards PTS atm, the sudden rise in population won't do us bad in quicker crawler/former cranking, and perhaps keeping our HQ as the cp producer.

	17-08-2004 03:01									#4
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i'm thinking PTS too, followed by VW - will do wonders to snatch the extra happiness away fropm other factions (and i know we need more NN's for that, but we need 'em anyway so :P )

	18-08-2004 00:57									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Hercules Now the interesting thing in the previous ACDG was that the Hive, prior to the discovery of Ind Auto was building formers like crazy. So when they discovered Ind Auto they didn't have to wait for Ind Auto/ crawlers to cash in, they cashed in their formers (ie disband). Not sure how much for, though, whether full price or 50%.

I don't think the Hive cashed in any formers.

	18-08-2004 03:56									#6
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My mistake then

	18-08-2004 03:58									#7
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But it if we do it looks like half price.

	18-08-2004 18:00									#8
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It does sets us back in terraforming. Isn't it better to hurry crawlers instead? Those have a better cash-in ratio.

	19-08-2004 00:18									#9
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As far as I remember from reading rules hurrying crawlers is allowed. I think this is the best way of speeding things. It is also good in longer run - better use of available resources. Usually I hurry units only when they are almost only 2EC/mineral, e.g. 5 left - 11EC to hurry or 6 left - 13EC to hurry. Then I hurry to the last mineral, cause in the next turn there is whole turn mineral production in the first row - the most expensive to purchase. If to buy minerals for EC, let's pay the lowest price. Last 5 (or so) minerals are the cheapest, so let's buy them all - it's like that.

I checked F5 screen in 2129 - noone started any SP yet. Maybe let us delay doing it also so we do not create psychosis among other factions - Angels have already started SP - Hurry! we have to be faster. we might be just build supply crawlers.

Maybe instabuilding when having several supply crawlers narby a base?

	19-08-2004 01:05									#10
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Yah, best is to let others in the dark untill we're sure we have enough crawlers to complete the project in one turn... But the others are that smart as well of course. In any way it is the only logical way of doing this unless we follow Herc's proposal to include formers as well to hurry the production.

Next turn research is finished, Wealth is chosen thus our production will speed up.

	19-08-2004 11:47									#11
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WP has quite a few benefits... especially doubling or tripling up on borehole production and condensors.

But I kind of play oddly with my crawlers, so going PTW is probably the best route, followed by VW and WP being if something else gets finished first (PTW).

	19-08-2004 19:37									#12
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What's PTW?

	20-08-2004 04:24									#13
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I think he means PTS...

	28-08-2004 09:43									#14
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder I think he means PTS...