26-08-2004 05:25									#61
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So how do you like it SpencerH? Something to pull you away from civ no doubt.

I liked the demo. I really need to go back and play some more. Apparently there are mods out there to allow you to play the Romans or Barbarians.

I had that flashing issue with the arrows. What fixed it for me was updating my sound drivers.

	26-08-2004 09:57									#62
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quote: har dee harr-har

	26-08-2004 14:45									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus my computer is not brand new, but it's not obsolete yet okay. but there has to be something wrong (and I don't know what). I can only get a maximum fps of 60 in games like sof1, which was released early 2000! UT1, when I play it lags like hell too! gef4 4200, amd 2100+, 512 mb ddram (400mhz), abit nf7 mobo.. it's freaking me out, especially when crappy old games run like a slug on my puter

Update your drivers, and motherboard drivers as well. Then reinstall DirectX9.0b.

	26-08-2004 17:36									#64
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH for those with ati cards You may encounter weird strobe lights when the arrows are fired in the battle. If so turn up all the video controls to highest and they disappear.

I'll have to try this, but what if my card can't handle the settings all at their highest?

And speaking of SpencerH, it's always weird when I see apolytoners at other forums.

	26-08-2004 20:15									#65
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Why do I get the feeling that this battle will NOT run smoothly on my computer:

	26-08-2004 20:25									#66
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quote: Originally posted by SirOsis So how do you like it SpencerH? Something to pull you away from civ no doubt. I liked the demo. I really need to go back and play some more. Apparently there are mods out there to allow you to play the Romans or Barbarians. I had that flashing issue with the arrows. What fixed it for me was updating my sound drivers.

Well that doesnt take a lot these days I've pretty much finished my mod (v1.3) but after playing two games while working out the bugs I cant be bothered to play a third.

I'm not thrilled with the demo. It certainly looks like they've moved the tactical parts of the games toward RTS. Hopefully, the demo is an abberation in that respect but if not, I'm sure there will be mods for the players with slow fingers who prefer the old style battles with more unit control.

	26-08-2004 20:32									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Stuie I'll have to try this, but what if my card can't handle the settings all at their highest? And speaking of SpencerH, it's always weird when I see apolytoners at other forums.

Didnt you recently buy a new PC?

It is weird. I knew SirOsis is there and now Stuie. There is a Michael the Great, but I dont know for sure if it is the same as our MtG.

	26-08-2004 20:33									#68
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH I'm not thrilled with the demo. It certainly looks like they've moved the tactical parts of the games toward RTS. Hopefully, the demo is an abberation in that respect but if not, I'm sure there will be mods for the players with slow fingers who prefer the old style battles with more unit control.

The battlefield component was always RTS.

	26-08-2004 20:35									#69
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Didnt you recently buy a new PC?

No... it's a year old. It is double all the minimum specs, but probably not enough horse power for some of those REALLY big battle scenes that have been popping up in screenshots.

quote: It is weird. I knew SirOsis is there and now Stuie. There is a Michael the Great, but I dont know for sure if it is the same as our MtG.

I actually registered at the org a month before I finally stopped lurking and registered at poly. Of course I have 1456 less posts there...

	26-08-2004 20:54									#70
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I dunno, they're saying the demo is playable with min specs (and even below). Granted that isnt a big battle but I'm looking forward to giving it a try with P4 2.8 HT 800MHz FSB, 512 Mb RAM, Radeon 9800 128.

Yeah I stopped lurking when I (finally) bought MtW.

	26-08-2004 23:04									#71
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike The battlefield component was always RTS.

Not in the same way as warcraft or AoE.

	26-08-2004 23:11									#72
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And it is now? I haven't played it. As long as they still have the morale type system and intricate formation and counter systems I'm happy. I can't believe they have taken those out (though morale was toned down in MTW as compared to Shoggy).

I haven't tried it though, so correct me before I buy if I am wrong please.

	26-08-2004 23:36									#73
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i've updated my drivers already, it's all just the same. actually the newest nvidia drivers screw up my system; lots of crashes, so I installed the old ones again

	27-08-2004 05:11									#74
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike And it is now? I haven't played it. As long as they still have the morale type system and intricate formation and counter systems I'm happy. I can't believe they have taken those out (though morale was toned down in MTW as compared to Shoggy). I haven't tried it though, so correct me before I buy if I am wrong please.

The demo is not like AOE but it's clearly not a new improved MTW either. Morale is still a factor but no one knows how much. Everything that made Shogun and MTW seperate from other games have been 'dumbed down' in the demo i.e. moving toward AOE type of simplified control and away from the chess-like deliberations of the earlier games. The general hope at totalwar.org is that the full version will not be like the demo.

	27-08-2004 05:36									#75
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Ah, but MTW was a "dumbed down" version of STW according to most "fans" (when it was released).

I think we need the full version prior to passing judgement.

	27-08-2004 13:38									#76
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I've tried the tutorial. It's nothing new and revolutioning really.

	27-08-2004 17:47									#77
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH The demo is not like AOE but it's clearly not a new improved MTW either. Morale is still a factor but no one knows how much. Everything that made Shogun and MTW seperate from other games have been 'dumbed down' in the demo i.e. moving toward AOE type of simplified control and away from the chess-like deliberations of the earlier games. The general hope at totalwar.org is that the full version will not be like the demo.

That would indeed be a shame.

	27-08-2004 20:05									#78
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Why dont you try the demo yourself?

	28-08-2004 02:30									#79
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Why dont you try the demo yourself?

This is a forum! You're not supposed to make any sense.

I dub Spencer H:

Expert of the Obvious!

	29-08-2004 08:45									#80
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This game looks amazing.

I'm very intrigued by the demo and what I see at the website.

I played Shogun, but none of the others.

	29-08-2004 19:44									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo quote: har dee harr-har

har dee harr-har (Stephen King-style chortle) = I agree with the poster who said "there's a certain satisfaction from kicking butt in TW battle you just don't get from any other game"

	29-08-2004 22:23									#82
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Why dont you try the demo yourself?

Will do when I get chance.

	30-08-2004 17:01									#83
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I dont find any Comment wheter the MP is just the Battles or finally the Strategic part too
I therefore assume the Worst. No Receation of the Punian Wars.
Arrrrrrr

	30-08-2004 17:32									#84
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The MP will be battles only I suspect, like the other games.

	30-08-2004 18:43									#85
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Will do when I get chance.

It took me 7 min or so to download the demo. The tutorial takes 20 min (I didnt time it) and the battlle seems to take 5 (so its probably 25 with pauses). So if you dont have broadband it may not be worth it except to test out machine specs before buying it.

	30-08-2004 21:56									#86
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I had a chance to play around with the demo a little more. Those flashes are back but it only seems to happen right at the beginning of the battle. It goes away though. Not sure why.

I'm definately going to get this game though. I tried very hard and I couldn't win. I wasn't pausing much though and the elephants definately went crazy punching through my lines.

The graphics are quite nice and I really enjoy pausing and zooming in on the action. I tried it at the highest settings and had no slow down which is quite promising.

I think I'll try out some of the mods out there to try different units.

Hmm... quite a few mods out there. Anyone played any of them?

http://www.totalwarcenter.com/forum...?showtopic=6982

	02-09-2004 14:15									#87
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Ok, so I haven't been paying attention to new games coming out for a while. But now that I'm making actual money again (working in politics and as a public school teacher... both of which pay crap during the summer ) and I'm getting really bored of playing through the same old games over and over, I'm looking for something new.

This game immediately popped to the top of the list of ones I was looking at.

But I want to know whether it's worth it and whether it will run at all decently on my system (1.33 Ghz Athlon Thunderbird processor, GeForce4 video card, 512 MB RAM).

Do any of those download locations for the demo still work and where should I go for it?

For those of you who have been paying A LOT more attention to this game's development and press or have actually played the other two games in the "Total War" series; I'd love to hear your take on this game.

	02-09-2004 17:02									#88
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From Shogun and MTW and some knowledge of your taste in games, I conclude you would like it quite a lot.

	02-09-2004 17:05									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Arnelos But I want to know whether it's worth it and whether it will run at all decently on my system (1.33 Ghz Athlon Thunderbird processor, GeForce4 video card, 512 MB RAM).

How much memory on the video card? If it's 128MB, you should be ok as long as you keep the game resolution at 800x600. The CPU may hurt you though. Best bet is to try the demo....

Demo site:
http://www.3dgamers.com/games/rome/

Pretty decent preview:
http://appsrv-4.1up.com/do/previewP...d=3134221&did=1

I played STW and MTW and their expansions. I'm also really really biased because I've always been a Roman history buff. The campaign map looks like it will be an incredible improvement over the prior games. Diplomacy FINALLY has some meat to it, not just yes/no to declare war. There are trade agreements, passage agreements, etc. There's a family tree interface to control your generals/heirs. Lots of good stuff.

My only reservation is waiting to see how the battles play out in the full game. The demo is designed to be fast paced, and pretty easy to win as the Carthaginians vs. the Romans. The battle included is Trebia, and it seems to end before you even get started. I think this has more to do with the setup than the engine, but others (on other forums) appear to think otherwise.

Definite must buy for me, but again, I'm slightly biased.

	03-09-2004 01:01									#90
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Heh. Within 12 hours of deciding that I've gotten bored of my current computer games and posting above in this thread about looking at this game to help pass the time, I get a phone call offering me a new and higher paying political campaign job.

So much for having TONS of free time.

I should try this method again in the future... need a new job, start looking around for computer games. You never know... there might be some cosmic connection between these things or something.