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Jamski is offline Jamski
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May 2002
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

The elegant solution is that training a spy is an order, as is using a spy, attacking, raising shields or building a generator. You may only perform one of these orders each turn.

And that gets my vote, and my vote counts double

Oh, and count me in, of course

Nice avatar, Joncha - one of my personal favorites

-Jam

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  Old Post 27-08-2004 01:46
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That's even worse than Skanky's suggestion, since you can't attack and use the spy simultaneously. That was always an intention of the rules you originally laid down.

Shame on you.

Spaced Cowboy is offline Spaced Cowboy
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  Old Post 27-08-2004 03:05
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I agree, that makes spies useless or similar to shields. The advantage of keeping someone at home while you go on a rampage is where the spy is at.

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I say its time we vote.

SPIES
1. No training and using spies the same turn. (Joncha's proposal)
2. No training and using spies the same turn only when there are 2 players remaining. (Smiley's proposal)
3. Using a spy counts as a regular order (Jamski's proposal)
4. Spies cost BPs to build (Spaced's proposal)
5. When 2 players left, fight to the death immediately (Skanky's proposal)
6. Don't change

COMBAT
1. Allow any OoB, recalculate after 3 rounds
2. Allow any OoB, do not recalculate (Combat 1.2)
3. Don't change

FLEET LOANS
1. Yes
2. No

My vote: 2, 1, 2

DrSpike is offline DrSpike
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  Old Post 27-08-2004 03:21
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The only good suggestion was Joncha's suggestion, so I vote for that, if it's going to get changed. I'm still persuadable on leaving it, but I don't think that has much support.

Kassiopeia is offline Kassiopeia
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1, 1, 2

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  Old Post 27-08-2004 04:47
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1, 1, 1

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  Old Post 27-08-2004 05:25
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1,1,2

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  Old Post 27-08-2004 06:43
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1,1,2

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  Old Post 27-08-2004 10:53
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1,2,2

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Aug 2001
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  Old Post 27-08-2004 11:44
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2,1,2

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  Old Post 27-08-2004 11:45
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2, 1, 1.

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I'm not participating in GO IV, so don't know if my vote counts. But for future GO's:

1, 1, 2

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(3 and 5), 1, 2.

Spaced Cowboy is offline Spaced Cowboy
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The totals so far:

Prop1: 1-60%, 2-30%, (3&5)-10%)
Prop2: 1-90%, 2-10%
Prop3: 1-20%, 2-80%

Looks like 1,1,2 will carry the majority.

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  Old Post 27-08-2004 20:00
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Didn't notice a list:

GM: Spaced Cowboy

Playaz:
1. "Star Child" Kassiopeia
2. "Evil Dood" Joncha
3. "I'm Happy and" Smiley
4. "Who's your Murray" DrSpike
5. "Noobie" Sandman
6. "Got my Cling on" Ljube-ljcvetko
7. "What? Where?" Whoha
8. "I'm not WASTED" Skanky Burns
9. "Up all night" GeneralTacticus
10. "If I have to use this library computer for internet access one more time I'll...." Jamski

I thinking of a Monday start. I put the thread up later today. You'll have til Monday to get the orders in (GM'n 3 games, is my mailbox gonna be full or what?).

GeneralTacticus is offline GeneralTacticus
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  Old Post 28-08-2004 13:10
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Hmmm... do we get a no-attack pre-turn, or not?

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Oi, this forum already has one Starchild.

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  Old Post 28-08-2004 19:30
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Oi, this forum already has one Starchild.


Oi, you are Star Child not Starchild.

I like the idea of a prebuild phase...then attacking allowed in the real turn 1.

GeneralTacticus is offline GeneralTacticus
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  Old Post 28-08-2004 19:32
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Orders sent on that assumption, then.

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Is it a 20 BP prebuild like in GO I?

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Orders sentified. Probably with mistakes.

Would I be right in thinking that one starts with one spy and one shield generator?

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AFAIK... no. You don't start off with either.

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Ok, thanks. Just needed to clear that up.

Jamski is offline Jamski
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  Old Post 29-08-2004 17:34
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Assuming a 20 BP pre-build, orders sentified

-Jam

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Ditto here.

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sent.

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  Old Post 29-08-2004 22:26
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20 BP pre-build, no spy or shield to start!

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