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Ned is offline Ned
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In a way, I don't get it. Kerry is running for president and publishes a book full of exaggerations and lies concerning his record in Vietnam that he knows, or at least should know, that his fellows in Vietnam would read. What did he expect, to get away with it?

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Pat Cadell, Democrat polster, was on one of the talk shows last night. He also questioned Kerry's judgment about relying on being a "hero" in the Vietnam war as that war was extremely devisive and was bound to pick at the scabs of wounds that have yet to heal.

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I see that the despicable anti-American communist John Glenn, has asked Bush to condemn the SB ads as an insult to all veterans.

Won't these pinko America-haters ever shut up?


Actually I am with Berzerker on this. I am a Vietnam vet and Democrat or Republican means nothing to me, nor does it matter if Bush is reelected. What does matter is that a pretender has fabricated his record in order to appear as some great military leader while he presumes to speak for the majority of vets. I think the ads should be run until Kerry is exposed as the fraud he is. And I don't care what Bush, McCain, John Glen or all of Kerry's hacks thinks of any of it. The truth still means something to a few people in this country regardless of the political repurcussions.

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Lincoln, I understand why Kerry wants to suppress these ads. I don't understand why Bush wants to suppress them.

Further, the whole issue is about character. This is NOT an unimportant issue. When Bush says he would prefer to talk about the important issues, he is doing exactly what his Dad did with Clinton, ignore the real issue in that campaign, Clinton's demonstrated lack of integrity.

Bush can't really believe that "integrity" is unimportant, can he? It makes one wonder.

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I think that Kerry has threatened Bush with some old photos or something. He did say that all stops were out if Bush persisted in not calling back these ads (as if Bush was behind the whole thing). Bush is trying to appear presidential and rise above it. Meanwhile the ads continue and Kerry self destructs in his response to them. May the best man win. Bush will apparently win by default. I look for a landslide victory courtesy of John Kerry.

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It's going to be tough for Bush to get a "landslide" victory considering many of the largest states won't vote Republican until hell freezes over

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Lincoln,

In order for the best man to win, one of them has to be good.

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OOH, OOH, the circlejerk increases in intensity! How sad, must be how this issue is already becoming 3rd poage news everywhere but on the papers of Newscorp

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Who the **** gives a **** about what happened over 30 years ago?! The election is about the next four years, not ****ing Vietnam!

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Apparently a whole slew of undecided voters that have resulted in a 7-10 point swing for Bush.

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If your an undesided Voter after the last 4 years you must be completly brain dead.

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You know passing insults around regarding intelligence, or lack thereof, is usually taken more seriously if spelled correctly vis-a-vis undesided = undecided & completly = completely

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What the...? "The braggart"?! I was expecting "the commie", "the terrorist", "the baby eater", "the Russian spy", "the heretic"..."The Braggart" is kind of weak.

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When Bush says he would prefer to talk about the important issues, he is doing exactly what his Dad did with Clinton, ignore the real issue in that campaign, Clinton's demonstrated lack of integrity.

Bush can't really believe that "integrity" is unimportant, can he? It makes one wonder.


True, integrity is an important issue. Particulary so when the people make a choice between two persons (or a third candidate, if they want to throw their vote away). But wouldn't you agree with me thatit should - in an ideal world at least - be up to the people to judge the candidates integrity? After all, the other candidate, and his (or her) election machine, is hardly an objective source of information in that issue.

(and I'm sorry if a lot of valuable and insighrful comments have been made while I was writing this post. My mother called in the middle of it, and even if she talks for hours, you can't really say that you can't speak to your mother because you're writing a post about the american election on an obscure internet forum)

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What we have here is two right wing candidates *****ing about who is the biggest *******? Great.

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What the...? "The braggart"?! I was expecting "the commie", "the terrorist", "the baby eater", "the Russian spy", "the heretic"..."The Braggart" is kind of weak.


I had to match the title to the article I led with.

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Apparently a whole slew of undecided voters that have resulted in a 7-10 point swing for Bush.


Ahem, but I have not yet seen a single poll in which Bush holds a lead greater than the margin of error.

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Ahem, but I have not yet seen a single poll in which Bush holds a lead greater than the margin of error.


Yet




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Kerry evidently cares about what happened 30 years ago since he made his Vietnam service the centerpiece of the Democrat convention. If he would have let the dead dog lie the swiftboat vets would have hardly been a passing distraction

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Who the **** gives a **** about what happened over 30 years ago?!

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John "Reporting for Duty" Kerry seems to an awful lot.

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Good for him.

Who the **** else cares?

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Guy, unfortunately, you and Bush seem to be in agreement.

Take that and smoke it!

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Sorrowful news:

If it is the case that the election is so close that the candidate's leads are smaller than the poll's margin of error, then Bush likely wins by default.

One word...Florida...

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Ahem, but I have not yet seen a single poll in which Bush holds a lead greater than the margin of error.


In several polls namely Arizona the swing was at least that large. COnsidering Bush was trailing in several of them to be brought even if not leading (w/in margin of error) says these are making impact.

Will be most interesting to see the polls coming out to establish baseline before the Repub convention.

Get ready to gnash your teeth.

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Rgith, cause with all the polls that had Gore up by huge numbers in late August, we just saw how he coasted to...

Oh, wait.

This election will be decided in September and October. BY then htis story will have been old news. Bush better hope for some real good econ. numbers coming up.

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Really big letters are very impressive.

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and persuasive too

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Thanks. I try.

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Big letters speak the word "Duh!" Don't blame him for using the big letters. Blame the people who seem to need them.

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Pretending that no one cares about this issue or that the SwiftVets charges are all lies isn't going to work anymore. The cat is out of the bag and no amount of big-lettered whinging is going to change that.

 
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