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Wittlich is offline Wittlich

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Here is the turn order:


Spain: Wittlich
Portugal: con
France: Rhoth
England: Paddy
Netherlands: Betaxus


And the game is off!!!

Good luck to one and all (except Rhoth)!

1490AD Turn sent to Con.


And here are the rules copied over from Rhoth's post in our last game:

Rules of the game


There are some FUNDAMENTAL rule changes everyone should be aware of, to make the game more fair.

- The game automatically has Accelerated Production on which makes it different than the SP version.
- OCEAN tiles take 2 movement points away, COASTS and SEAS only take 1.
- There are 4 "sea lanes" between Europe and the Americas, which allow fast travel. Make sure to watch where you send your ship, as moving onto an ocean tile is costly.
- Archers and Longbowmen do NOT have a defensive bombard
- Medieval Infantry, Musketeers, Musketmen, and Conquistadores can do amphibious assaults
- Pikemen do NOT require iron
- You CANNOT build cities on jungles or forests until you have chopped them.
- The resources have changed. check the civilopedia for this.
- The tech tree is different so check it out.
- Many units and some wonders are different than they are in a stock Civ3 game so just check out the Civilopedia for the changes.
- And the big change is TREASURE

Treasure Resources (produces a treasure every X turns)
Furs (12 turns)
Gems (5 turns)
Gold (3 turns)
Silver (5 turns)
Spice (10 turns)
Sugar (10 turns)
Tobacco (8 turns)

When you want a treasure, you have to build a city next to it. the treasure has to be within the city's radius, and it has to be connected to the city. when that is done, the city can build a special building (for example, a city near a gold can build a "Gold Mine"). That building will produce a treasure every X turns (see above), and the treasure unit is immobile. ANOTHER unit must come, pick it up, and bring it back to YOUR CAPITAL CITY. when it arrives you get 1000 victory points and 200 gold.

We have already agreed to no fighting in continental europe/starting locations, but two other 'rules' I'd like to see are:
1. no moving your capital. it's too big an exploit when you're taking treasure there.
2. no "treasure whoring". you COULD build a cities around a gold resource like this:

XXX
CXCXC
XXGXX
CXCXC
XXX

but i think thats quite an exploit, using 1 gold resource to generate 6 treasures every 3 turns. i'm sure if we all use common sense, and play for fun, this rule will be self fufilling.

Last edited by Wittlich on 22-09-2004 at 18:05

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Thanks Witt!

Good luck to all, and ....

May the wind at your back always be your own.

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This will work.

Rhoth is toast we all know his MO.

"The better you know your enemy the easier it is to kill him"

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This will work.

Rhoth is toast we all know his MO.

"The better you know your enemy the easier it is to kill him"


I may regret giving out all my strategy from the last game.

Witt did you set the game up with all the same attributes as last game (i.e. emperor level, natives in locked alliance...and actually adding the natives in)? The last one was for con who forgot to do that in a prior AoD PBEM.

EDIT: Just read the old thread where con talked about his mistake. That makes it much less fun for me.

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I did add the AIs, but I didn't place them in a locked alliance (I didn't know how to do this with a scenario). Concerning the difficulty level, it is the level that came with the scenario (Again, I couldn't change it from the setup screen).

As you can tell, I never play the scenarios on my single and LAN games.

Oh well, even with the difficulty level set to what ever is standard for this scenario, I still think that we'll have an interesting time.

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Yes, I do believe its difficult at best to change the default difficulty level.

The only thing it really affects in a game like this is the happiness level anyway and I would prefer to worry more about trash talking posts then how happy my cities are anyway.

Ill get this played in a couple of hours.

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thanks for this Lord Wittlich

let the good times roll

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With great regret I must announce the end of this PBEM.


Err, sorry I guess I can't state that this early in the game.

1490bc to Paddy the Scot

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Rhoth...... STOP IT!!!

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With great regret I must announce the end of this PBEM.


Err, sorry I guess I can't state that this early in the game.

1490bc to Paddy the Scot


cheeky fella

I will play this when I get home... ahh only another 6 hours 10 mins left.....

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Yee haw! ...said the Dutch.

To Wittlich (ex resident of ZuiderZee; now living in Madrid).

Last edited by Beta on 02-09-2004 at 15:54

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1491AD Turn sent to Con.

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Ah - and the perfect player schedule swings into action again. It is a thing of beauty.

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1491 to that Pirate Guy

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To Lord Wittlich.

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1492AD Turn sent to Con.

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Its about time you started getting out of the rack earlier again.

I think you are getting soft in retirement

In Fourteen hundred and Ninety Two(to Rhoth), con went sailing the Ocean Blue.

And he went to exotic places, met interesting people, and made plans to of course kill them

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In Fourteen hundred and Ninety Two(to Rhoth), con went sailing the Ocean Blue.

And he went to exotic places, met interesting people, and made plans to of course kill them


Is that a threat?

And if you think the save arrived, it didn't...not that I'll be able to play until later today anyway.

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Is that a threat?

And if you think the save arrived, it didn't...not that I'll be able to play until later today anyway.


threat... sounds like an invitation

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Con!!!!!!!

You still haven't sent the save on to me!!!!

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Con!!!!!!!

You still haven't sent the save on to me!!!!


That is because basically he is lazy and he sucks.

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That is because basically he is lazy and he sucks.


...for a girl.

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quote:
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...for a girl.


There are so many things one could say right now, and none of them would be very polite.

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Sorry, couldn't help tieing various threads together.

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1492ad to Paddy the Scot

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quote:
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Sorry, couldn't help tieing various threads together.


Weaving a little Wittlich magic, so to speak.

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