04-09-2004 04:54									#1
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Do you want to continue playing this game or to set up another one and concede defeat?

	04-09-2004 05:09									#2
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We pushed our restrictions to the limits of a demo (committee) game and we lost. Let's pull up our socks and get back at a new one. We've learned it is possible to lose by restricting ourselves too much. Now let's find a fair game to play!

Last edited by cavebear on 05-09-2004 at 22:24

	04-09-2004 05:22									#3
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Well, that I regret.

But I'm going to give the game a run myself and see if I can't do better.

	04-09-2004 06:17									#4
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Surviving so far. I sold all my temples, to build tanks.

Built Musketeers in all the colony cities, plus the Bank and the Stock Market in Apolytonia.

Sacajawacea invaded, took two cities, but I rallied three tanks, retook my captured city, and then stole Communism.

Revolted to Communism, kept capital celebrating, so that we earn more money every turn, without problems of Republic.

Started to demand technologies from the Egyptians, got Nuclear Fission, and tactics, so that allows us to build decent defenses.

Traded for technologies with the Persians. No one has espionage. Democracy available, but I need the cash, plus other technologies to defend myself. Take Combined Arms, and Amphibious Warfare, to build Coastal fortresses.

Signed treaty with Sacajacea, so that I have the time. Zulus patrolliing, but with tanks behind a coastal fortress, decline to attack Apolytonia.

Now I'm modernising all the defenses with Alpine troops and coastal fortresses along the shore. Still far behind the AI, but we can build a strike force of Tanks and Helicopters to take AI cities. We have 5 tanks avaialable, plus a helicopter.

We are not in a hopeless position, Cavebear. We can win this thing!

	04-09-2004 06:19									#5
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And the proof is in the pudding

Attachment: ap_a1889.sav
This has been downloaded 5 time(s).

	04-09-2004 07:18									#6
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my vote is for a new game & daquiris for all!

	05-09-2004 03:47									#7
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do not stop until the game is won

	05-09-2004 04:06									#8
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Hey Hydey, why not give us a hand?

	05-09-2004 22:30									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi And the proof is in the pudding

Go for it!

	06-09-2004 00:24									#10
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I'd say play on with this one. There is no dishonor in losing a hard game. I just wish I could be of more help, taking a cabinet post, etc, but, I'll chirp in when I see something.

Monk

	06-09-2004 00:27									#11
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quote: There is no dishonor in losing a hard game.

BM:

Check the save, and see if you don't think this game is winnable.

I sure think it is, given that we can start to conquer Zulu cities, and they are our only current enemies.

	06-09-2004 00:43									#12
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Ben

I only meant that the dim and unlikely prospect of losing should not be used as an excuse not to continue. I never say it can't be done.

And checking the save is just what I was referring too, elsewhere, about the value of posting the save for all to see.

Personally, I think defense is of little value at this stage of the game. I would emphasize 'Tora, Tora, Tora, and let the chips fall where they may. But, that's only my preference. There are many ways, and enough time, to skin this cat.

Monk

	06-09-2004 00:51									#13
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Well, having some defense slows down the enemy when they invade, which allows me to counterattack.

Plus, Alpine troops behind coastal fortresses are not chopped liver for AEGIS cruisers.

	06-09-2004 01:06									#14
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I agree for the Capital, most definitely, defend. I was thinking more of the burbs where I would have stationed defenders in the trees outside of Panama, while rushing Tanks to move on the Suefolk first. This would be defense by projected offense strat. But this way works too; no problem.

Monk

	06-09-2004 03:10									#15
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And there are other ways to arrive at 1889 (with Ben's general strategic suggestions). I have 9 Armor and 10 in production. Captured Wood Lake and will take Bear Paw easily. I think the Tanks will run through many Sioux cities and capture additional techs We got Communism from Wood Lake. We can get things like Coastal Fortress or Engineering from them too (assuming everyone else has those things by now).

So yes let's attack the game again... And we have a choice of ways. That has to be good!

Last edited by cavebear on 06-09-2004 at 03:20

	06-09-2004 03:23									#16
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And there are other ways to 1889. I have 9 active armor and 10 in production.

But I can't find the upload feature... It's embarassing, but I need a tech help reminder...

	06-09-2004 03:39									#17
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It should be on the top bar below the Poly banner.

Right beside your PMs and the member tags.

	06-09-2004 06:53									#18
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cavebear,

If you want to show your alt. strat, you could use the attach save function just below in this screen.

Monk

	06-09-2004 09:25									#19
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That's all I did.

	06-09-2004 23:47									#20
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I'm obviously having a "senior moment" here. I've uploaded my save easily enough. I just can't seem to reference it. How do I get the stupid file into my post?

I can't find an "attach save" on my screen!

Last edited by cavebear on 06-09-2004 at 23:55

	07-09-2004 00:12									#21
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Oh man, I was using the "quick reply" only and that doesn't allow the attach file.

Here's my 1889 file:

(apparently having a bad day)

	07-09-2004 00:14									#22
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1889, (please)

Attachment: ap_a1889.sav
This has been downloaded 5 time(s).

	07-09-2004 00:15									#23
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HURRAY, it worked!

	07-09-2004 01:43									#24
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You should disband the ancient defense in Apolytonia, and free up some shields!

Otherwise, you are in a better position than me, military wise, but you should revolt to Communism at some point.

Very cool!

	07-09-2004 03:31									#25
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In the Oedo year 1891, yes.

Last edited by cavebear on 08-09-2004 at 02:45

	08-09-2004 02:44									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi You should disband the ancient defense in Apolytonia, and free up some shields! Very cool!

Perhaps, but it still has to be someone other than me to lead us. I am busy finishing the inside of a 12' x 16' toolshed and clearing brush and lots of poison ivy from my yard. And I have a list of additional ignored projects as long as my arm.

	08-09-2004 03:01									#27
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Nope, I know that.

I'm just happy to see some renewed interest in the game, and I'm very wililng to lead these folks.

Good luck with your shed.

	08-09-2004 03:05									#28
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"Ben Kenobi for Consul/Premier!"

(repeat as required)

	08-09-2004 03:31									#29
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On that note of "renewed interest" when do you intend to start playing again?

	08-09-2004 04:27									#30
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As soon as a Cabinet is formed and elections are held (and I will post election polls as soon as the positions are filled with volunteers). If we are lacking 1 or 2 positions, I will defer to the Consul candidates for willingness to go with what is offerred.

Is that OK?