04-09-2004 12:00									#1
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Orders from the Ministers:

ALL MINISTERS, please feel free to edit this post to enter in your orders.

Save is here

Pre-Turn Actions


Military Orders
(warriors)
Roadkill: Remain fortified as sentry.
Anthea: Heal.
Grog: 3
Ares: Remain fortified as sentry.
Con: MP in NA
Diomedes: MP in PH
Jason: MP in poly
Odysseus: MP in Hypnos
Achilles: MP in Stable
Chimera: 6

(hoplite)
Bellerophan: 6
Theseus: MP in Olympus
Ajax: (protect workers!)
Hopity: MP in Hypnos
Pig Sticker: GOTO PH.

(archers)
Phobos II: 2, 1, or 3, in that order.
Zeno: 8
Alcaeus: 3, 6, fortify in apolyton.

Worker Orders

#1 Roads-R-Us – road
#2 Fred & Barny - Continue Mine
#3 Oppressed Laborers – continue irrigate
#4 Bonehed (slave from PAL) - cont. road
#5 Woodchuck - cont mine.
#6 new worker - name him "De La Hoya" - have him mine due east (keyboard #6) from Hypnos.

City Orders

#1 Apolyton – wf no change - settler (done in 3), worker
#2 Hypnos - wf no change - start horse (done in 8), sword, sword (these sword builds assume we have the iron hooked up - if not they will be either horse, archer or warrior per Ministy of Offence request)
#3 Poseidon's Harbor - wf no change - archer (done in 5), currach, hoplite, sword, sword
#4 Naked Aphrodite - wf no change - hoplite (done in 2), archer, sword
#5 Olympus - wf no change – worker (done in 3), granary, settler
#6 Stable of Hermes– wf no change– curragh (done in 3), to be determined....or start on zeus?


Diplomacy To Be Completed


Any Other Things To Be Done

Talk to CDG about trading wine for furs.

Negotiate border with PAL

Negotiate future tech trades with CDG

Check FAM thread - need to come up with a response to CDG's message. ~Oct X

Last edited by GodKing on 09-09-2004 at 03:51

	06-09-2004 18:01									#2
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Sace is with CDG. Next is PAL, who are quite efficient, and then us. So, I thought it prudent to get some orders up for then, at least.


Military Orders
(warriors)
Roadkill: Remain fortified as sentry.
Anthea: Heal.
Grog: 3? - Moves us away from PAL and towards unknown volcanic lands.
Ares: Remain fortified as sentry.
Con: MP in NA
Diomedes: MP in PH to be replaced the following turn by Jason so Diomedes can go get some combat experience? see Alcaeus order ideas[b]
Jason: MP in poly [b] 3-3 to replace Diomedes in Poseidon's Harbour in order that Diomedes is free for some combat experience? see Alcaeus order ideas
Odysseus: MP in Hypnos
Achilles: MP in Stable
Chimera: 6?

(hoplite)
Bellerophan: 6 - moves away from the West coast so barbs can spawn - heads for Stable of Hermes to be closer for when the action begins?
Theseus: MP in Olympus
Ajax: Fortify(protect workers!)
Hopity:MP in Hypnos?[b]
Pig Sticker: [b]MP in Apolyton? - see Alcaus (Archer) order idea

(archers)
Phobos II: dependent on PAL, CDG movements, but 1 or 2 if possible, else 4?[b]
Zeno: [b]8, moves to take on the barb camp to the NW
Alcaeus: 3, 6 fortify in Apolyton? This also allows for more uncovered terrain for barbs to spawn in. Jason or Pig Sticker could move to Poseidon's Harbour to replace Diomedes as MP, and Diomedes back to Apolyton for the possibility of promotion in a later barb attack. Warrior Jason is already a vet and there is no point in hoping to promote him further when there are Reg Warriors around like Diomedes.

Worker Orders

#1 Roads-R-Us – road
#2 Fred & Barny - Continue Mine
#3 Oppressed Laborers – continue irrigate
#4 Bonehed (slave from PAL) - cont. road
#5 Woodchuck - cont mine.

City Orders

#1 Apolyton – wf 4-8-12-18. Looks like it should stay at this as we are on track for growth and a settler in 3 turns. We can shift things around for one turn of fewer shields sometime, so we could give Hypnos a go then. Building Settler.

#2Hypnos builds Worker this turn and down to pop 3. GK says Horse next. Therefore either 2, 8, 19 for +1fpt and 6spt (pop 4 in 11 turns, Horse in 5 turns) or 3, 8, 19 for +2fpt and 4spt ( pop 4 in 6 turns, Horse in 7+ turns) I'd go for the faster Horse myself, There will be a reduction in Poly's pop in 3 more turns, so we may be able to pick up a better tile then for a few turns.

#3 Poseidon's Harbor - wf 1-7 - archer (done in 5), currach, hoplite, sword, sword
#4 Naked Aphrodite - wf 1-2-19 - hoplite (done in 2), archer, sword
#5 Olympus - wf 1-6 – worker (done in 3), granary, settler
#6 Stable of Hermes– wf 16 (oasis) – curragh (done in 3), to be determined....or start on zeus?


That's all I can see.

	07-09-2004 23:53									#3
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MWIA, are you sure you don't want want to be a consul?

	08-09-2004 00:24									#4
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I am in favor of WIA's proposed moves post updated

	08-09-2004 03:34									#5
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quote: Originally posted by ormuzd MWIA, are you sure you don't want want to be a consul?

I'm not sure whether to , or at that

	08-09-2004 03:54									#6
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It looks like MWIA has deduced my plan as well....

	09-09-2004 01:52									#7
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Well CDG has moved South with their settler - looks like they're going for the coast, where we can easily get a road! See too that PAL is nosing around with their warrior, just as Grog is poking about their cities.



And in the west another barb spawned from that camp Archer Zeno is heading for. We could keep Zeno where he is this turn and attack the warrior when it moves SE next turn, OR, continue Zeno North (8) and just fortify Hoplite Ajax with the workers, and wait for the barb to brain itself on him (attack 1 vs defense of 4.8 when fortified - better than the 2 vs 1.1 odds of attacking with Archer Zeno), and we may get Ajax promoted.



Otherwise all looks fine with no surprises.

I'd play the turn right now if I could.

	09-09-2004 03:52									#8
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Orders added. Nothing significant.

	09-09-2004 10:18									#9
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quote: Sorry about the delay; our backup turnplayer dropped the ball. There is a barbarian camp north of Meeting Mountain that we're going to allow to remain for recruitment purposes - we'll keep it under control, we promise. Also, a long time ago you all mentioned a siege road towards CDG - has anything become of that? Good luck. Fried

	09-09-2004 10:27									#10
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Playing the turn now....

	09-09-2004 10:54									#11
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Oh.

	09-09-2004 10:54									#12
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Actions Taken:


Phobos II: Moved 2
Zeno: Moved 8
Alcaeus: Moved 3,6, fortified in Apolyton
New worker from Hypnos renamed "De La Hoya"; building mine keyboard #6 from Hypnos.
Chimera: Moved 6
Roads-R-Us: Roads
Ajax: Fortifies
Bellerophan: Moved 6
Grog: Moved 3
Anthea: Fortifies
Pig Sticker: Moved 3,3 towards Poseidon's Harbor

City Management:

Apolyton: No changes
Hypnos: Start building Horsemen
Poseidon's Harbor: No changes
Naked Aphrodite: No changes
Olympus: No changes
Stable of Hermes: No changes

	09-09-2004 10:54									#13
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We also have not answered this from the 8-28 save:

quote: Here is the save, gentlemen, and an answer to Con's questions. I'm not sure if I'm clear on the total city count for CDG: The capital, Minnesota, Sven Fjord, Reykjavik is what we see. Is there another you know about that we don't? We concur with your analysis of the tech situation; we were unable to lure CDG off Mapmaking, but they don't have it yet. Currently there are quite a few units by the ivory; we have a few by our new city of Pumpkinland, and there is a spear in Sven Fjord, as well as a pair of warriors spread north of it. We will be sending a road out of Pumpkinland towards you - west and then southwest - so we were planning on using the gold hill and mountain W,SW from Meeting Mountain in order to watch for barbs. Are there any around that you know of right now? Cobra is on a mapping expedition like your own, partially for lack of a better thing to do, and partially to speed up the process of sorting our areas of land concern. Our preparations for the date (T-minus 21 turns by our count?) continue well, and we see you've secured a lil' something of your own recently. Horses of the Gods indeed! Here is the save, and good luck in your ventures.

	09-09-2004 11:05									#15
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt Oh.

If I win the Consul seat in the ISDG I will likely not have enough time to do both since I will be going back to work in a few weeks (hopefully); so, I'm thinking of resigning and maybe you can take my spot.

	12-09-2004 20:58									#16
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quote: Originally posted by BigFree If I win the Consul seat in the ISDG I will likely not have enough time to do both since I will be going back to work in a few weeks (hopefully); so, I'm thinking of resigning and maybe you can take my spot.

I really don't know about the legality of this. And I doubt the team would be too happy with you offering the Consulship to someone who they turned down thrice.

But thanks for the thought, at least.

	13-09-2004 01:17									#17
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If anybody has any problems with this, then why don't they complain? I have no problem with it, since this forum is starting to become slowly inactive I would want any one who is dedicated to do the job.

	13-09-2004 05:35									#18
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quote: Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt And I doubt the team would be too happy with you offering the Consulship to someone who they turned down thrice.

Please.

Stop milking the martyr thing, it's old and no one except you cares about those past elections.

What we care about are getting responsible people who are civ-knowledgeable and willing to dedicate time and effort to helping this team succeed.

If you want to help us, then help us. Don't beat around the bush, give orders and suggestions, and they shy away at the invitation to become officially a part of the team's leadership.

If you believe in yourself, step up to the plate and take responsibility.

--Togas

	13-09-2004 08:03									#19
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Well I'm sorry but I was pretty enthused about things even through two defeats. Three in a row hit me harder though. And I no longer expect to be available much in November, when this latest Consulship goes to. The previous three-six months were fine, so that's unlucky too.

And for all the posted support there was, I was declined thrice. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but that suggests to me that the lurkers vote me down as a Consul. Well, that's fine, but until I see evidence that this is no longer the case, why should I disappoint myself again?

	13-09-2004 08:49									#20
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Oh for Petes sake MWIA, do you need some cheese with that whine?

Run again already and quit dwelling upon the past.

Last time was just a generaql misubderstanding when you were moving.

Get over it and run.

	14-09-2004 10:57									#21
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Lurkers for MWIA!!