08-09-2004 06:02									#1
	Why are the Screens Blown Out? Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

I have to scroll the page over every time in order to read the entirety of a post as of late. I didn't have to do that before at this Web site. Something's forcing the screens to blow out.

Is there a Web address or something causing this? Or is it those two lines of options at the top of the page ("control panel," "search," "faq," "new posts," etc.), which seem to have increased in number of options as of late? (For instance, the "new!" bar has a long red box behind the words.)

Gatekeeper

	08-09-2004 06:10									#2
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The ad for paid Apolyton, "Avatar Enlargement: We've Got the Solution," seems to be one of the causes, IMO.

Gatekeeper

	08-09-2004 06:16									#3
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screenshot please

	08-09-2004 16:04									#4
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Here's a screenshot (well, 2 pasted together), originally 800 pixels wide, with the problems highlighted.

It's mainly the "Avatar Enlargement..." thing that causes the problems with the forum posts. When it's not there, the posts show up nicely for me, without having to scroll to see the right end of it.

The busy index does require scrolling but doesn't affect the posts...

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	08-09-2004 18:19									#5
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I'm experiencing the same thing.

Darn annoying.

I was waiting for some one else to complain just in case i had screwed up my browser settings.

Using IE 6.0.2

	08-09-2004 21:23									#6
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Does the same effect occur if you use a different browser??

Monk

	08-09-2004 22:28									#7
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Thanks! It's fixed!

The top index now wraps and I haven't seen the avatar enlargement text so far... Ah, the "edit" and "reply with quote" buttons are now aligned to the right and are no longer affected by the text ad.

(and just for the record, I use Firefox, so yes, Bloody Monk)

	08-09-2004 23:16									#8
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It's worse for me now The avatars are taking up a third of the screen.

	08-09-2004 23:17									#9
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except in this thread where the title overlays the avatar so the page ends up the usual size.

	09-09-2004 00:15									#10
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I don't have this problem at all. But then again, that might be because I have a screen with 1600x1200.

	09-09-2004 06:45									#11
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Works fine for me in IE 6.0.2 (which I only used to test this problem, I might add). As you are a mod, I assume that the Plus features prevent any advertisements being the problem.

I use light-ultra-special style, but also tested plain default style and still cannot reproduce the problem.

Resolution may be the issue? I use 1280x1024. I'm not changing that even for testing purposes.

	09-09-2004 06:58									#12
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Higher screen resolution.

	09-09-2004 07:23									#13
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Markos:

Splitting the index into two lines seems to have done the trick for the most part. Thanks!

About the only thing now that causes blown-out lines are superlong thread titles, the occasional Web link and the "Avatar Enlargement" ad, and two of those three are pretty much beyond your control.

Gatekeeper

P.S. And Mercator, thanks for diagramming the situation.

	10-09-2004 02:02									#14
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Still messed up. In fact the screen got even wider.

	10-09-2004 02:33									#15
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@Gatekeeper: No problem...

@rah: screenshot please

	10-09-2004 02:45									#16
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I'm experiencing this problem also, but not to the extent that rah is.

	10-09-2004 13:30									#17
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Screen 1024x768 and Moz 1.7.2 but no overlap with this thread but I have had this problem occasionally. Those times, I just minimize the side bar.

	10-09-2004 21:24									#18
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It's fine for me now at 1280*1024, but it did go a bit strange on Wednesday night.

	10-09-2004 23:27									#19
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800x600 is where i have a problem.
When I bump it it's fine, except for the fact that everything is too small. (it sucks getting old)
800x600 used to not be a problem.

	11-09-2004 00:38									#20
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quote: Originally posted by rah I'm experiencing the same thing. Darn annoying. I was waiting for some one else to complain just in case i had screwed up my browser settings. Using IE 6.0.2

use firefox

	11-09-2004 00:54									#21
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IT's not an issue at home. At work we have certain standards that must be maintained.

	11-09-2004 00:55									#22
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I'm using MyIE2 and I had to enlarge the width of the window

BTW: It's true: In Opera, Netscape and Mozilla works fine.

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	13-09-2004 06:57									#23
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quote: Originally posted by rah IT's not an issue at home. At work we have certain standards that must be maintained.

Change the standard, then

	18-09-2004 20:15									#24
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WinXP Pro & Opera gives this when not full screen (and I almost never do full screen 'coz I like having "peripheral vision" of other things that are open). I had to shrink it some to fit in the 800 pixel maximum size.

I'm not sure how much padding you've specified, but at least the second line doesn't have to wrap at all. If there's a way to make it wrap at the link boundaries instead of at word boundaries that would look better. Sometimes using [alt][0160] for a "hard space" works.

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	18-09-2004 21:39									#25
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There's another thing I just realized... I thought that attached images used to only affect the width of that one post. But now the entire page is affected.

Oh, and   is the proper HTML for a non-breaking space.

	20-09-2004 04:00									#26
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Well, of course the page has to be as wide as the contents. With Opera, only the offending post is extended; the rest stay regular width. I had to scroll over to capture this in sections and paste them together (then squish to 800).

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	23-09-2004 02:22									#27
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I get this a LOT on 800x600 too and there's nothing obvious doing it.

	23-09-2004 02:25									#28
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Ah wait, I'm wrong, there IS something obvious doing it, namely a big image. Basically what Mercator said - bring back the variable-width cells!

	24-09-2004 10:33									#29
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Ah, at least the hard space or field padding is fixed!

	24-09-2004 20:09									#30
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Whoa! This seems to be a style issue. Even in Opera the entire page would get the same width for me... until I changed to the Default-Special style. Now, only posts with images attached are affected, the rest fits the screen as they should (like in Straybow's screenshot).

So I think this must be a bug, MarkG! Or is there some purpose to this difference?